ARE YOU A SUPPORTER OF SISUPALA ISKCON?

 

Just as a lion does not care when a flock of jackals howl, Lord Krsna remained silent and unprovoked. Krsna did not reply to even a single accusation made by Sisupala, but all the members present in the meeting, except a few who agreed with Sisupala, became very agitated because it is the duty of any respectable person not to tolerate blasphemy against God or His devotee. Some of them, who thought that they could not properly take action against Sisupala, left the assembly in protest, covering their ears with their hands in order not to hear further accusations. Thus they left the meeting condemning the action of Sisupala. It is the Vedic injunction that whenever there is blasphemy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one must immediately leave. If he does not do so, he becomes bereft of his pious activities and is degraded to the lower condition of life. All the kings present, belonging to the Kuru dynasty, Matsya dynasty, Kekaya dynasty and Srnjaya dynasty, became very angry and immediately took up their swords and shields to kill Sisupala.

(KRSNA BOOK CHAPTER SEVENTY-FOUR The Deliverance of Sisupala)

Note: If we draw the parallel of the Rajasuya arena and ISKCON then we can see that as Sisupala could not tolerate Krishna been glorified and thus blasphemed him, in the same way these  envious  souls dressed as devotees  cannot tolerate Prabhupada been exclusively glorified as the Guru of Iskcon. Therefore they poisoned him, usurped his  movement, changed his books and presented him as the leader of their child molesting cult, to the world. 

It is the duty of any respectable person not to tolerate this blasphemy against Srila Prabhupada!!! Anyone who cannot properly take action against this cult of offenders, must at least leave this demoniac society in protest for good, never again to return! It is the Vedic injunction that whenever there is blasphemy of a pure devotee like Srila Prabhupada, one must immediately leave that place. If he does not do so, he becomes bereft of his pious activities and is degraded to the lower condition of life. 

If someone blasphemes a Vaisnava, one should stop him with arguments and higher reason. If one is not expert enough to do this he should give up his life on the spot, and if he cannot do this, he must go away.

(C.C. Adi 7.50)

Note: Go away for good never to return, never to associate again, this is the Vedic injunction!!!

As those who agreed with Sisupala were silent, [Prabhupada makes this same point also "If we remain silent, then whatever he says, that means we are accepting."  (Discussion about Guru Maharaji August 13, 1973, Paris)] those who visit or associate with this cult in anyway and don't take proper action [as described in the above quote] against their blasphemous activities but are simply silent in the face of them, such persons are ultimately supporters  of these  blasphemies and will equally share the result of these extremely sinful actions!!!

 

AFTER DEATH THE RESULT OF AN ACTION

IS EQUALLY SHARED BY IT'S DOER,

IT'S DIRECTOR AND IT'S SUPPORTER

I request all the pure-hearted demigods, forefathers and saintly persons to support my proposal, for after death the result of an action is equally shared by its doer, its director and its supporter.

(S.B. 4.21.26)

Note: So visit a Sisupala temple at your own peril!!!

 

  Those sinful people who blaspheme Vaisnavas,

who are all great souls, are subjected very severely

 to the punishment offered by Yamaraja.

 

"If the man who blasphemed Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is killed, his sinful action may be atoned."

PURPORT: The Hari-bhakti-vilasa cites the following quotation from Skanda Purana concerning the blaspheming of a Vaisnava:

yo hi bhagavatam lokam

upahasam nrpottama

karoti tasya nasyanti

artha-dharma-yasah-sutah

nindam kurvanti ye mudha

vaisnavanam mahatmanam

patanti pitrbhih sardham

maha-raurava-samjnite

hanti nindati vai dvesti

vaisnavan nabhinandati

krudhyate yati no harsam

darsane patanani sat

 

In this conversation between Markandeya and Bhagiratha, it is said: "My dear King, if one derides an exalted devotee, he loses the results of his pious activities, his opulence, his reputation and his sons. Vaisnavas are all great souls. Whoever blasphemes them falls down to the hell known as Maharaurava. He is also accompanied by his forefathers. Whoever kills or blasphemes a Vaisnava and whoever is envious of a Vaisnava or angry with him, or whoever does not offer him obeisances or feel joy upon seeing a Vaisnava, certainly falls into a hellish condition."

 

The Hari-bhakti-vilasa (10.314) also gives the following quotation from Dvaraka-mahatmya:

kara-patrais ca phalyante

sutivrair yama-sasanaih

 nindam kurvanti ye papa

 vaisnavanam mahatmanam

In a conversation between Prahlada Maharaja and Bali Maharaja, it is said, "Those sinful people who blaspheme Vaisnavas, who are all great souls, are subjected very severely to the punishment offered by Yamaraja."

 

In the Bhakti-sandarbha (313) there is a statement concerning the blaspheming of Lord Visnu.

ye nindanti hrsikesam

tad-bhaktam punya-rupinam

sata-janmarjitam punya

tesam nasyati niscitam

te pacyante maha-ghore

kumbhipake bhayanake

bhaksitah kita-sanghena

yavac candra-divakarau

sri-visnor avamananad

gurutaram sri-vaisnavollanghanam

tadiya-dusaka-janan

na pasyet purusadhaman

taih sardham vancaka-janaih

saha-vasam na karayet

"One who criticizes Lord Visnu and His devotees loses all the benefits accrued in a hundred pious births. Such a person rots in the Kumbhipaka hell and is bitten by worms as long as the sun and moon exist. One should therefore not even see the face of a person who blasphemes Lord Visnu and His devotees. Never try to associate with such persons."

 

In his Bhakti-sandarbha (265), Jiva Gosvami further quotes from Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.74.40):

nindam bhagavatah srnvan

tat-parasya janasya va

tato napaiti yah so 'pi

yaty adhah sukrtac cyutah

"If one does not immediately leave upon hearing the Lord or the Lord's devotee blasphemed, he falls down from devotional service." Similarly, Lord Siva's wife Sati states in Srimad-Bhagavatam (4.4.17):

karnau pidhaya nirayad yad akalpa ise

dharmavitary asrnibhir nrbhir asyamane

chindyat prasahya rusatim asatim prabhus cej

jihvam asun api tato visrjet sa dharmah

"If one hears an irresponsible person blaspheme the master and controller of religion, he should block his ears and go away if unable to punish him. But if one is able to kill, then one should by force cut out the blasphemer's tongue and kill the offender, and after that he should give up his own life."

(C.C. Madya Lila 15.261)

 

Note: It does appear that even seeing these various blasphemers is so polluting what to speak of giving them any type of support. This is why Prabhupada called such violators of religious principles the most dangerous elements in human society. [Isopanisad mantra 12] By associating with them one will also be thrown into the darkest regions of hell, the most obnoxious place in the universe. A man is known by his company... birds of a feather..... is it not?

Never try to associate with the SisupaIa Iskcon group, the Iskcon Reform [not neglect] the Prabhupada Killers movement, the PADA work with the Turley blasphemers group, or the Sisupala Gaudiya Matha sahajiya party that is the CLEAR WARNING! Prabhupada tells us to completely neglect all association with such jealous persons in the dress of Vaisnavas.

A mundane person in the dress of a Vaisnava should not be respected but rejected. This is enjoined in the sastra (upeksa). The word upeksa means neglect. One should neglect an envious person. A preacher's duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaisnavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous. There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaisnavas in this Krsna consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. There is no need to serve a jealous person who is in the dress of a Vaisnava. When Narottama dasa Thakura says chadiya vaisnava seva nistara payeche keba, he is indicating an actual Vaisnava, not an envious or jealous person in the dress of a Vaisnava.

(C.C. Madhya Lila 1.218)

Note: Again the same Vedic Injunction is stressed by Srila Prabhupada. Leave [reject, completely neglect ] that place where jealous persons in the dress of vaisnavas blaspheme the pure devotee. His Grace Sulocana Prabhu, commenting on the following Prabhupada letter: "Regarding the poisonous effect in our Society, it is a fact and I know where from this poison tree has sprung up and how it affected practically the whole Society in a very dangerous form... It is a fact however that the great sinister movement is within our Society. (Hamsadutta, 9/2/70)"  has said "This exact same sinister movement is still there, but it is no longer within the Society, it has become the Society and everyone else has fled for their lives"  

Devotees have fled for there lives because they know that to stay in a place or society where Prabhupada is blasphemed is spiritual suicide. Those who hang around are the parasites of the most obnoxious, abominable characters in the universe. 

An interesting point in regards to Prabhupada's assets like the temples, they are now stolen property. If anyone visits these usurped temples even unknowingly he will be subjected to the reactions of stealing the topmost brahmana's property.

At this time, Lord Krsna was present among His relatives who were members of the ksatriya class. To teach them through the exemplary character of King Nrga, He said: "Even though a ksatriya king may be as powerful as fire, it is not possible for him to usurp the property of a brahmana and utilize it for his own purpose. If this is so, how can ordinary kings, who falsely think of themselves the most powerful beings within the material world, usurp a brahmana's property? I do not think that taking poison is as dangerous as taking a brahmana's property. For ordinary poison there is treatment--one can be relieved from its effects; but if one drinks the poison of taking a brahmana's property, there is no remedy for the mistake. The perfect example was King Nrga. He was very powerful and very pious, but due to the small mistake of unknowingly usurping a brahmana's cow, he was condemned to the abominable life of a lizard. Ordinary poison affects only those who drink it, and ordinary fire can be extinguished simply by pouring water on it; but the arani fire ignited by the spiritual potency of a brahmana can burn to ashes the whole family of a person who provokes such brahmana."  (Formerly, the brahmanas used to ignite the fire of sacrifice not with matches or any other external fire but with their powerful mantras, called arani.) "If someone even touches a brahmana's property, he is ruined for three generations. However, if a brahmana's property is forcibly taken away, the taker's family for ten generations before him and for ten generations after him will be subject to ruination. On the other hand, if someone becomes a Vaisnava or devotee of the Lord, ten generations of his family before his birth and ten generations after will become liberated."

   Lord Krsna continued: "If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige and power wants to usurp a brahmana's property, it should be understood that such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of life. A person who takes away property which has either been awarded to a brahmana or given away by him is condemned to live for at least 60,000 years as miserably as an insect in stool. Therefore I instruct you, all My boys and relatives present here, do not, even by mistake, take the possession of a brahmana and thereby pollute your whole family. If someone even wishes to possess such property, let alone attempts to take it away by force, the duration of his life will be reduced. He will be defeated by his enemies, and after being bereft of his royal position, when he gives up his body he will become a serpent. A serpant gives trouble to all other living entities. My dear boys and relatives, I therefore advise you that even if a brahmana becomes angry with you and calls you by ill names or cuts you, still you should not retaliate. On the contrary, you should smile, tolerate him and offer your respects to the brahmana. You know very well that even I Myself offer My obeisances to the brahmanas with great respect three times daily. You should therefore follow My instruction and example. I shall not forgive anyone who does not follow them, and I shall punish him. You should learn from the example of King Nrga that even if someone unknowingly usurps the property of a brahmana, he is put into a miserable condition of life."

   Thus Lord Krsna, who is always engaged in purifying the conditioned living entities, gave instruction not only to His family members and the inhabitants of Dvaraka, but to all the members of human society. After this the Lord entered His palace.

Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the Sixty-fourth Chapter of Krsna, "The Story of King Nrga.

Note: Someone may say that "But some of the people in sispala Iskcon are doing good things like putting Prabhupada's film footage on dvd etc.... or transcribing his conversations in to book form " Of course this is wonderful service for the people involved and all those souls reading etc. But still theses projects also benefit the cult and allow it to continue. And for each "good" thing they may do there are many bad. For example by purchasing the conversation set from the cult one also supports the printing of many offensive unauthorised changed books. The Vedabase is another example, a wonderful facility but full of changed books, so it is like sweet rice mixed with a little sand. All these projects should be done properly by devotees who are completely independent of the cult and it's influence. Otherwise these thieves are simply getting full facility to exploit Prabhupada's assets and followers for their own demoniac ends.

Another view is that if one makes a mistake in the beginning of a maths calculation then whatever one does after that will be an expansion of that original mistake, or in other words an expansion of the offense to Prabhupada. Even if it is not viewed as an expansion of the original mistake one will still be subject to getting a reaction for both his good and bad actions, as was King Nrga. Just because one may do something apparently as service to Prabhupada that doesn't mean he is free from equally sharing the reactions of all the blasphemous offenses to Prabhupada, as a supporter. 

And it doesn't mean that because we perceive with our imperfect senses some expansion of that original mistake as service to Prabhupada, or because the Deity and Prabhupada's Murti in the cult are transcendentally situated, we can again mix with the cult on the plea of going to see the Deities and think we are also transcendental and above contamination by association. No we are not transcendental, we will be subject to reactions of blasphemy. We are not above the Vedic injunctions. We must leave that place where offenses to Prabhupada are taking place unless we wish to commit spiritual suicide. 

Nor should one think that because a few original books are printed 27 years after Prabhupada demanded it, or because these jealous persons suddenly accept the formal rtvik system of initiation that that wipes the slate clean... "now i'm free to enjoy in the vipers nest without a reaction." NO!!!

CONCLUSION  Anyone claiming to be a sincere follower of Srila Prabhupada MUST completely neglect all association with Sisupala Iskcon and those who support it. This is not a question of opinion, it is a Vedic Injunction. If one violates this injunction he is committing spiritual suicide.