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THE
FALSE REFORMERS OF
"THE
HARE KRISHNA SOCIETY"
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Dear Hari Katha
prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP.
Yesterday i had a
conversation with Kapindra [now the with the Hare Krishna
Society] which i wish to describe to you.
I called to clarify
what was the situation in regards to PSS New York clearing the
debt for all the Srila Prabhupada Lilamrta's, as the e-mails i
had repeatedly sent were not replied to.
Kapindra answered the
phone and was (like Nimai pandit) not able to give a straight
answer about the payments. He then said that the books you had
taken to the US were all distributed in a meeting of devotees
which took place somewhere in the USA (I think he said LA)
Anyway he told me that you all decided to cut out the
acknowldgements page of the book. He basically said the reason
was that you all found the following statement out of order.
Thanks to Sanat
Prabhu for risking his life, exposing the demons crime of
poisoning Srila Prabhupada and for striving for several years to
wake up the false reform, so called Prabhupada followers, (Pada,
Nityananda das et al) that Srila Prabhupada himself had clearly
indicated he was being tortured and poisoned “unto death”.
He was saying that i
couldn't criticise devotees and that i should be more tolerant
of their faults, not simply criticise them. He said that you had
all removed this page so that it wouldn't offend Nityananda dasa
who would be at the meeting.
I responded that this
was not a personal attack but simply stating the facts. Before i
elaborated on this point i exposed some hypocrisy in his
actions. I said that if we are to over look the faults of other
devotees and not criticise why was he not applying this
philosophy to me? Why was he now finding fault with me? Surely
he must be consistent in his philosophy and overlook my fault
also? Why cut out a page of acknowledgements???
To this he had no
reasonable answer, simply ramblings.
I then explained to
him why the above statement about the false reform was in
fact calling a spade a spade. It was very difficult for me to
make this point as he was constantly rambling his mantras at me,
but i eventually was able to get the question in " Can
you glorify Prabhupada and push on his mission and
simultaneously blaspheme him by distributing the bogus Lilamrta
which is so offensive? Is this logicical that we can claim to
reform and at the same time blaspheme???"
To this question he
was silent.
He then brought up
his previous critical comment that i should not have put my
words as an appendix in the back of the Lilamrta as it is. He
was speaking in such a way as to imply that i had taken a book
already compiled by Prabhupada and reprinted it with my
comments. In others words how puffed up i am as to put my words
in Prabhupada's book. To this a replied that one devotee here in
Manchester was told by me that somebody held this view. He
replied (after he had just read the book) some people have the
fly mentality and will look for the sores. He advised me not to
bother about such envious people. This reminded me of Srila
Prabhupada's statement "Let them do something first, then we
shall see what is their criticism. Simply criticizing and no
work, that is the business of inferior men. So do not be
disturbed by them, go on with your work, increasing more and
more. Never mind the jackals howl."
I then replied that
we should judge by the results. So many devotees are so please
with the book and ultimately His Divine Grace gave his
conclusion to me personally:
My Guru
Maharaja is very pleased. As soon as a book comes out, he is
pleased.
[S.P.
Room Conversation, July 26, 1976, London]
Kapindra then used the same mantra as
Ravindra used when Sanat was exposing him at the Ratha Yatra.
"Why don't you follow the principles then you can talk to
me."
Kapindra said that if one is not
chanting 16 rounds and following the principles then what he
says is not authorised or his vision is contaminated. In
others he was saying the same as Ravindra. He wasn't able to
refute any of my points so he attacked my character. "You
aint following so whatever you say is faulty anyway"
After the conversation i discussed
with various friends. Here are some points to consider:
* Who authorised you all to cut the
page? (If you say Prabhupada, you have to prove how he
revealed this to you. In other words show the philosophical
basis for your actions)
* If Prabhupada has said the book is
pleasing to his Guru Maharaja then what right do you have to
amend the book even one sentence, what to speak of cutting
two pages? Isn't this being over intelligent and simply
offensive to Srila Prabhupada and the previous Acaryas?
* Krsna das prabhu said he found it
improper to write in such a sacred book, why does Kapindra
cut pages from it?
* Isn't the cutting of this page a
denial of all the people who played their role in churning
this book out? All the devotees mention played a very
important role in making this book manifest. [For example
the Antya lila of Prabhupada's life in the Lilamrta was
originally uncovered and distributed at Ratha Yatra parades
in draft form by Sanat. If it wasn't for him the clear
picture as told by Prabhupada himself about his departure
lila may never have appeared in the the Lilamrta as it is.]
So isn't cutting out my
acknowledgement of their service an offense to them? What
happened to Kapindra's philosophy of tolerance? How
intolerant can you get to simply deny the existence of a
persons sincere service?
* Prabhupada words were on page 399
who authorized you to cut them out???
* Would you have deleted if Kapindra
and his Hare Krishna Society were acknowledged?
* Why did none of you not mention this
point when you first read the book? Why now changing? Isn't
this duplicity, simply to achieve some agenda in your
relationship with Nityananda dasa and co. and the formation
of your new reform movement "The Hare Krishna Society"? If
you were so concerned about my so called offending
Nityananda dasa and co. why not protest immediatly???
Your servant Mukunda dasa.
P.S. Nityananda
das also got a complete copy of the book and said it was
wonderful and ingenious. He got a copy from Naveen Krishna
dasa.
Sanat dasa: but it
just reveals that otaykapindra IS THE FALSE REFORM that has
been exposed. he can't tolerate even an indirect reference
to this valid point. birds of a feather . . .
Mukunda dasa: So
it's now official, Kapindra and his followers have teamed
up with the false reformers to form "The Hare Krishna
Society"
They even have
an Oath of Allegiance to Srila Prabhupada to signed. They
just want their followers to put their allegiance to them
and their false reform in writing. Anyone who does so is
simply a fool with no real faith in their direct
relationship with Srila Prabhupada and his ability to
empower them to do direct service apart from such pseudo
societies.
And what is the
benefit of being a leader of these fools anyway?
Everyone wants to become leader and some followers.
Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that "What is the use of becoming
leader of these fools?"
[Bhagavad-gita Lecture, 4.10 Calcutta, September 23, 1974]
This business of
cutting out 2 pages of the Lilamrta as it is by Kapindra
dasa has very great significance.
It is is again
completely unconstitutional behaviour like his attempt to
ban our centre in England from the Prabhupada Sankirtana
Society because we were fighting to defend Srila Prabhupda
from blasphemy [see HAS THE
"SWAMI" TITLE GONE TO KAPINDRA'S HEAD "QUARTERS" ?]
This act
reveals his actual support for the bogus reformers and his
total contempt for devotees like Sulocana prabhu who have
uncompromisingly fought against the sinister movement [It
is interesting to note he has never read the GURU BUSINESS
or distributed it to his foolish followers]
The concept of
Lilamrta as it is came from Sulocana prabhu and was
manifested by the joint desire of devotees (few who were
mentioned in the Acknowledgements page) desiring to
Glorify and defend Prabhupada's honour.
So in the name
of not offending a person who has knowingly sold a most
offensive book about Prabhupada he offends His Divine
Grace and souls who have being instrumental in fighting
for his honour.
Of course he
doesn't care about Nityananda dasa but sees him as someone
who can be helpful to his new "Hare Krishna Society". Such
duplicity and self puja consciousness makes him blind to
what's really going on in the real mission and what we
have to to to counteract it for the benefit of the worlds
population. Simply cow dung skull, but acting with so much
authority. Whimsically banning temples, chopping up
authorised books, kicking on the face of those who have
done service without compromise.
This is what
happens when you want so much to be recognised for making
your world wide "Hare Krishna Society". Maybe he can be
saved - GET READING THE GURU BUSINESS padabu !!! And pass
it on to your sheep.
A
little example
With some friends you struggle very hard to prepare a nice but small Prasadam feast with the meditation to distribute this feast to starving souls. As you are preparing this feast Srila Prabhupada keeps coming in the kitchen and guiding you how to put it all together. When the offering is made Srila Prabhupada tells you that it was very pleasing to his Guru Maharaja. You then start to distribute the Prasadam and many souls are relieved to taste the nectar. Then one soul who is serving out the mercy starts to criticise the preparation work (our kicking out of the kitchen someone who was trying to put dog stool in the pots) and a part of the feast. He then without any authority throws away this small part of the feast in the name of defending the dog stool thrower. What do you think Srila Prabhupada and His Guru Maharaja would say about this ???
Janardana das:
To make comments like those mentioned in an
acknowledgement section of a book meant to glorify Srila
Prabhupada is simply in bad taste. There IS a time and
place for these kind of comments. But what can you
expect from
He was
beaten severely by the supporters of this cult for
exposing their crime of poisoning Srila Prabhupada.
When
Puranjana and Nityananda were told by Sanat that Tamal
was the Ravana that Prabhupada was speaking of,
neither of them accepted this and called his
suggestions offensive. Nityananda even laughed
heartily when he heard Sanat was beaten at the Ratha
Yatra parades, saying that this was his reaction for
making such offensive propaganda.
Sanat
eventually got through to Puranjana somewhat after
$3,000 of phone calls to accept that Prabhupada was
poisoned. Sanat suggested that they get the Bengali
section of the conversations translated to see what
other things Prabhupada was saying.
Puranjana
and Nityananda then only became convinced about the
poisoning after hearing whispers - Prabhupada's own
direct statement were not enough!!!
While they
got more and more into the poison issue Sanat suddenly
didn't exist. No recognition of his waking them up
from their false reform at the risk of his life.
Another factor is that Nityananda was selling the
offensive Lilamrta's while all the while shouting
about reforming ISKCON and exposing the poisoners.
What we
have to understand is that "For one who has being
Honoured Dishonour is worse than death" So looking at
Puranjana and Nityananda they have both, while seemly
working to expose corruption being simultaneously
involved in propagating a more severe type of
corruption themselves - namely blasphemy of Srila
Prabhupada.
So i have
acknowledged this service by Sanat prabhu as this is
actual glorification of Srila Prabhupada. It may not
be palatable for those who wanted to jump from the
frying pan (Apa-iskcon) to the fire (PADA, Hare
Krishna Society) but we are sure it is pleasing to
Srila Prabhupada. These people who are criticising us
for pointing out this obvious hypocrisy in the name of
reform may have a change of heart when they wake up to
the fact that were saved from the fire.
Your fallen
servant and ever so humble life saver Mukunda dasa
(association with is sure to enlighten you padabhu)
P.S. Also
while Nityananda das was propagating the offensive
Lilamrta he completely neglected to sell even one copy
of Guru Business by Sulocana prabhu. Yes the beautiful
expose by Sulocana prabhu of that sacred cow
Satsvarupa cannot be tolerated padabhu's but Tamal's a
real demon right?
And mr.
puranjan pada licks the butt of old Nityannada dasa
to get him to pay for the forensics to be done on
the poison whispers.
What a
faithful brother of Sulocana eh? Butt licker of the
man who denies Sulocana's work and propagates the
book Sulocana says should be burned. Is the fog
clearing now? Now you understand why Prabhupada says
the Lilamrta As It Is is pleasing to his Guru
Maharaja, yes from 1 to page 400 - ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
INCLUDED !!! Kapindra over intelligent editing
free!!!!!
Sanat dasa:
actually, puranjana didn't become 'convinced of
the Poisoning of the Spiritual Master until an old
friend of his named abhinandana in Houston woke up
after 20 years slumber. Abi's awakening was
apparently precipitated by his seeing Pd's story
on the internet on July 6th, 1997 about how
several 'devotees' (of Tamal) brutally attacked me
in Washington DC RY while videotaping my exposing
tamal, and Co.'s torture of Jagat Guru, Srila
Prabhupada in 1977. They tore up flyers (of
Prabhupada's own words from SPConv.), smashed a
sign that had pictures of SP, stepped on
Prabhupada's face, kicked, punched and slapped me,
etc. Pada reported this, as i was 'representing'
the pada org., and had his address and phone
number, email, etc. on the flyers; and the
videotape reveals that i was thinking puranjana to
be "the premier" reformer in the iskcon world.
Unfortunately, Mr. Puranjana -- who had been
praising my fearless and unprecedented activities
since early 1993 (just a few weeks after my Dec.
16, 1992, 200 - page ISKCON Farm Report had been
published and distributed around the world), and
had even published an article next to my own in a
local Juniata County, Pa. newspaper, in which he
heartily extolled the virtues of [my] exposing the
miscreant leaders of ISKCON farm who harassed the
cows and cowherds - was firmly opposed to my
inserting a paragraph in my July 4th, 1997 flyer
stating that "tamal IS Ravana". After that
episode, i started wondering what truly motivated
Puranjana. And i openly disclosed this fact to
him. I did not speak behind his back, or create an
uproar. I matter-of-factly told him his shocking
response was hypocritical, and seemed to me at the
time to contradict every thing he had hitherto
espoused and explicated. My wife couldn't console
me, and i even discussed this at length with my
family counselor. We had accepted "SRi Puranjana"
as the representative of Sulocana and a sincere
Prabhupadanuga warrior (in fact, Puranjana himself
coined the term 'Prabhupadanuga' after reading my
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS section/praise of HDG Srila
Prabhupada, and using that term, Prabhupadanuga in
every paragraph - later, KK Desai and others
coined another phrase i invented: "BACK TO
PRABHUPADA". Anyway, the documents reveal what i'm
saying here very clearly. We have innumerable
documents showing Pd's full hearted acceptance of
our role in exposing the 'evildoers'. Letters
fr5om him, Yasoda, Gauridasa, Hansaduta, KK Desai,
etc.,etc. from around the worlds (and from other
cowherds in the movement and outside the
movement.) And similarly ALL of our writings,
videos, etc. are suffused with statements
extolling Pd's role in exposing the miscreant
gurus, etc.
(And,
backing up a little, shortly before this episode
-- and after i had spent over $3 K phoning Mr.
Puranjana over 4 years importuning him to take
seriously that Srila Prabhupada, the Spiritual
Master, was indeed explaining that tamal and co.
were torturing and poisoning Him unto death -- Mr.
PADA told me he didn't even own copy of SPConv. I
was so stunned, i walked around my house in
Ithaca, NY. for nearly a wekk totally stupefied,
and babbling, exclaiming that there was maybe no
one sincere left in the world to talk to [except
my therapist and psychiatrist!!] , and that i had
been mislead yet again by someone with false
motives who cared so little about the real truth,
and didn't mind cheerleading me on and on and on
to do all the front line dirty work and fighting,
while he sat back comfortably on the internet
taking trying to take credit for the salvos flying
over my head and into my face for acting on
Prabhupada's advice to "go call them all ill
names, urinate on their face rascals!", etc.]
Anyway,
everything changed drastically after i got beaten
in Wash DC and Abhinadana woke up and decided that
he had in fact heard that Prabhupada said he was
poisoned (by Bhakticaru) on Nov. 8, 1977, as he
entered SP's apartment. Abhinandana, whom i never
met or knew existed, phoned me around July 6 or 7
and told me i had to stop my public demonstrations
and immediately arrange to come to Houston and
then he'd finance our journey to India where he
knew "prominent life members who will help us get
this message to the Indian government", etc. He
forced me into a threeway converstaion with
Houston FBI officials regarding Prabhupada's
assassination, and he promised to give me copies
of the final weeks' Conv. tapes of SP if i
cooperated with him; he was very surprised that i
neither had copies of the tapes nor even knew they
existed (i figured they had all been destroyed!)
The man
was a little crazy, and indeed within a few days i
got a call from his Indian-born wife, Dhramistha [i
still have their phone number], and this nice lady
told me the whole saga of her husband including
years of on again off again drug use, etc (which
apparently happened because of his attempt to
drown the memory of what he'd heard 20 year prior
in Vrindavana India) HEY, FOLKS, THIS IS ALL
IMPORTANT DOCUMENT, THAT PADA, NITYANANDA, AND ALL
THEIR FRIENDS DESPERATELY DON'T WANT TO BE
RECORDED HISTORICALLY - NO FRIGGIN WONDER THEY ALL
DEMONISE ME EVER SINCE!!. So Mother Dharmistha
rings us up all disturbed that she just had to
have her husband of many years committed because
of his sudden most crazy and dangerous outburst,
in which he lashed out violently at their teenage
daughter, and etc.
Abhi
called me several more times from the funny house,
begging me to come down at once and speak on his
behalf so they let him go "to do our most
important work of avenging Prabhupada's death." I
was really thinking he was off at this point,
because i didn't know him from Adam and he wanted
me to fly to Houston to spring him from the
cuckoos nest!!
Soon,
Abhi got out and made more calls to us, imploring
me to help him in his India project.
Meantime, pada started acting really strange; he
told me he was going to make a tape recording
about Prabhupada's posioning; i told him that was
fine, but would he send me the tapes if he had
them. He asked me for the money up front. I sent
$260 cash. The tapes came many months later, AFTER
PADA had cleverly presented himself as the
discoverer of the poison conspiracy, a thing he
refused to embrace for several years (him and
Nityananda, etc.). But i wassn't interested
necessarily in being recognized for revealing
this, as long as PADA and others would NOW work
conjointly to get the info to the press, to ward
off SP's being defamed in the press regarding what
i presciently felt would be an upcoming child
abuse litigation in which ravindra and tamalt and
E. Burke Rochford were conspiring to deflect
criticism from the [false] ISKCON gurus and leave
Prabhupada holding the bag.
I
REMONSTRATED WITH PADA, YASODA AND OTHERS THAT THE
TIMING WAS VERY IMPORTANT, And that not much time
remained in which to head ravindra and fellow
demons off at the pass. Certainly, if SP were seen
by the public as a victim of the same miscreants
who had covered up decades of child abuse and also
abused cows, women and the public, that Srila
Prabhupada would be seen as a Christ, not as a
cult leader. I strongly urged PADA to give up the
tendency to want [false] recognition and become
famous for so-called being "first" to reveal the
truth of Prabhupada's demise, and to instead use
his internet skills to exhort his godbros around
the world to amass for public demonstartions and
expose' to reveal the Crime of the Millenium, and
to circulate petitions everywhere for the Indian
Gov't to work to extradite tamal and company to
India to face the charges of Guru-Killing and
etc. PADA told me forget it, i should do it
myself since i was local on East Coast, and etc. I
was doing it already. I have video tape also of my
distributing literature at Toronto RY in July 17,
1997, and my speaking out to the Indian Political
Minister (and handing him one such petition),
Amitava Tripathi at the Dec. 3, 1998 meeting at
SUNY Cortland, NY. PADA didn't care about
educating people properly, nor did Nityananda or
Yasoda. Nobody showed any alarm except that i was
stating unequivocally now (Sept 97 onward) that "PADA
is a hypocrite, is only self-interested, and will
do anything for name and fame, doesn't care that
Prabhupada was poisoned, only that he should
become famous for exposing it!"
By Oct.
1998 the precursor to the Turley lawsuit came out.
I had told PADA and Yasoda it was only a matter of
little time before the press started blatantly
blaming Prabhupada for the crimes of tamal,
satshedupe, ravindra and rochford, etc. The Oct.
9, 1998 front page NYTs story by Laurie Goodstein
on ISKCON child abuse, proved my suspicion. It
openly attacked "the Founder's teachings" for the
child abuse. This was mouthed by Rochford, who
first, with ravindra's and Mukunda swami's tacit
support, published the same thesis in ISKCON
JOURNAL in early 1998. Thus they were passing
blame onto Srila Prabhupada, along with all the
priti laksanam cheerleaders.
PADA
went silent. I protested. My protest was recorded
in Ithaca Journal (that's a little different from
ISKCON Journal, but same initials!); you may view
it at our website, Back to Prabhupada; fact is,
Prabhupada Himself came to participate in defening
the Spiritual Master - and if you hold the picture
of Prabhupada's presence up to a light, you can
clearly also see the face of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta
Sarasvati.
I
exposed the plot very nicely, as i had several
times to the persons i believed were sympathetic
to Srila Prabhupada.
PADA
was in high gear to blast and smear my character
now. He sent out newsletters saying i was a
cheerleader of satshedupe and another Kirtananda,
etc. Simply for calling a spade a spade, and after
giving him clear benefit of doubt over many years,
AND AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO REPENT FOR HIS
HYPOCRISY, GIVE IT UP AND START ACTUALLY
UNDEFAMING SRILA PRABHUPADA. HIS LASHING OUT AT ME
PROVED HIS INSINCERITY AND HIS ONLY CARING ABOUT
NAME AND FAME.
Meantime, blasphemy of the pure devotee became
more and more broadcast. PADA and company took up
the poison issue with great enthusiasm, not
perceiving that the public would be happy that
Prabhupada was murdered if they simultaneously
believed he was the leading supporter of tamal's
and ravidra's and sdg's child abuse cult.
Turley
hit the streets and tabloids, and pada joined in
the chorus showing clearly his true colours and
motivation: kick tamal off his seat and install
his own blue-dyed jackal self in that supreme
[jackal-ass] position. He himself stated on June 5
or 7, 2000 that "Why do i have to compromise with
Turley and Nityananda."
WHY
INDEED!!!!!
Because you want to kill guru [via defamation]
and become guru! Exactly as Ravindra and Rochford
wish to do.
More
later.
your
servant,
sanat
dasa
yeah, everything
changed after Abhinandana heard about how i had been
viciously and repeatedly attacked at Wash DC [1997] Ratha yatra, why? Because, pada had remained silent about the poisoning issue for many years - he, Yasoda, Nityananda and other self-interested [and uncaring?] individuals. But now that Abhinandana, an apparent 'eyewitness' was
suddenly going
ballistic over this, and had even stated to me on the
phone from Houston that he knew "lots of devotees knew Prabhupada had complained he was being given poison!", and suddenly Abhi was to let the cat out of the bag, he had the 'final tapes', he was going to the FBI, he was threatening to go to India, to Indian Life Members, to the press, to the government, etc.,etc., and furthermore he emphatically stated over and over again that he absolutely forbade me to do anymore protests, that i should go silent, trust his judgement and that he and i would soon travel to India together and formulate a strategy of getting financial backing from wealthy Hindus and life members, who would certainly see the light and help us incite the Indian authorities to help us solve the crime and extradite the evildoers, etc.- as soon as pada and yasoda caught wind OF THIS, of WHICH WAY THE WIND WAS SUDDENLY BLOWING, BOY OH BOY DID THEIR TUNE CHANGE. Suddenly they had access to those final tapes, suddenly i couldn't have them for months, because pada had to establish that he alone knew that Praabhupada had been poisoned, he wanted to control the info on this, to release it at his
own discretion so
that people would see pada as the savior of all the
devotees from ignorance and their leader and protector, etc. (as we've seen him act with countless unfortunate and chroniicly gullible creatures like NNV's former wife and many other mislead souls, who seek shelter under pada's soothing and omniscient [ABOUT DEVOTEES' FAULTS?!] footdust yep, pada and associates saw the dangerous threat to their positions in Abhinandana, who himself was demonstrating that he knew everything and wanted to totally and freakishly [and anally] control it and own it, since, after all he had "been there" in Vrindaban when Bhukticharue shammy had "come out of Prabhupada's apartment in Vrindaban misty eyed, telling me that Prabhupada had complained of being poisoned." Yeah, Abhi was acting insanely, he had the tapes, and he wanted me censored; pada was even worse - he knew i knew the truth and how i had been importuning him and Nityananda and others for years to wake up and see what was the root cause of the isgone insanity that sulocana was on the verge of discovering when 'they' gunned him down, ie. tamal and godbroze plan to kill guru and become goru. Puranjana was not about to let this slide. No!!! he went into higear with his associate to usurp total and exclusive credit "for the poison discovery." [although privately, he had thanked me profusely for my work of exposing the crime]. BUT VERY SOON THAT CREDIT_GIVING WOULD GO MOOT> SINCE pada didn't really [even at that late date] believe in his heart that SP had indeed been tortured unto death, he didn't really try so strneuously right away to
'own' the poison
issue. But when he saw how devotees started responding,
and that they were looking to him for revelations on the issue, he became enlivened and soon became the clearinghouse for all things poison
issue!
PADa and assoicates
decided also that they needed to seem credible on
some slight level, so pada convinced his sick girlfriend (whose SSi moneys were funding padas different mental/emotional addictions), to carry a sign about SP's poisoning at the Aug. '97 LA RY. pada himself was too scared to do such a thing. naturally, Brahma sampradaya dasi had the sign taken from her hand after only a few minutes of walking with it. [and pada did nothing but complain about it]. but after this episode, now pada figured he owned the poison issue, and he went out of his way to pretend i didn't even exist as far as this issue was concerned. later he made an audio tape about it in which he was discussing it with some english devotee as though he were the only one convinced of the poisoning in the world. my name was conspicuous by its absence. pada sent me copy of the tape, to "distribute"> though i was shocked that pd was acting in this manner, i tried to cooperate with him anyway, hoping he would settle down enuf to help me with the 'pre-turley expose'. as i had earlier mentioned, i wanted pada and friends to immediately get the message out to the newsmedia of Srila Prabhupada's being murdered by his 'loving, intimate disciples.' so that when child abuse scandals became soon prominent ( AS HAD BEEN CLEAR TO US THAT SUCH THING WAS INCREASINGLY IMMINENT - ABD WE WERE IN POSITION TO KNOW THIS SINCE WE HAD FOR YEARS DEMONSTRATED AT RY FESTIVALS AND COULD DISCERN THE PULSE BASED ON FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE WITH THE HEAD-IN-SAND MISLEAD FOLLOWERS , INCLD'G GURUKULIES- OF RAVINDRA AND CO.), the ravindra/tamalt/rochford-faction would have no one to scapegoat for their demoniac actions, theories and coverups. BUT PADA AND CO. DIDN'T CARE ABOUT SUCH IDEAS; they had the immediate 'cool new issue' of Prabhupada's poisoning. they saw how things were quickly developing on that front, especially when some others in florida came out with the whisper theories; suddenly the forensics and other theories mesmerized the florida crew, pada, nityananda, etc.etc. and sent them on a diversionary forensicks chase - as though the Messiah's words weren't good enuf. OF COURSE< WHEN OTHERS ARE TRYING THEMSELVES TO BE Messiah, it is not so astonishing that Krishna's< IE> God's Representative's Words go unnoticed for many years or even lifetimes or generations. [Prabhupada means also 'in place of God', and apparently puranjana believes that pada means 'in place of PRABHUPADA'] INCISDENTALLY< I HAD EXHORTED PADA< YASODA AND NITYANANDA TO get the hindi and bengali translated years before, so that they would have "coNCLUSIVE PROOF" of sP's poisoning. i told them that i was certain that SP spoke in these languages esp. in nov, 1977 to cover his awareness of his tormentors' actions. but they only did that later to show even more how they were the originators of the poison issue, and were fast on the trail of the ass ass sins. Meantime, the Turley "very nominal" and minimal attack on the Spiritual Master approached nearer and nearer, and the padaophiles slept fastly. but they certainly went into overdrive and overtime to demonize our humble self for saying repeatedly: you even will try to enjoy the spiritual master''s position by making money and supporters over His death?!?!! have you rascals NO SHAME? Nityananda, whose been making a nice living selling sdemong's vantassi litter achores for a long while, books that murder Prabhupada, murder Sulocanapada, murder the public's perception of the holy and pure Messiah, the GOLDEN Avatara of Lord Caitanya's Mercy, is now working with puranjana-PADA to make money [and supporters] on the Guru's demise, only for profit adoration and fame? WHAT IS THIS DEMONIAC, RAKSHASHIC MOOD? have you all not learned anything from ravindra's [ and nityananda das'] false reform??? and etc. such statements got me quickly blacklisted from the padaobedience school. but my prognosticatory statements that they were knowingly selling out their Guru [on poison issue] for fame and following, became soon manifest on dec 9, 1998, when the precursor article to turley in NYT's appeared, which was the first time we had ever witnessed the blame-shifting of the gurukula meltdown onto the bona fide Spiritual Master, SRILA PRABHUPADA. but, when we saw pada's total indifference, and our exclaiming that he and yasoda should immediately do something about ROCHFORD'S RAVINDRA-LIKE ATTACK, HE GOT REALLY MAD AND SHOUTED THAT I SHOULD DEAL WITH IT MYSELF SINCE I LIVED OUT EAST AND SO DID ROCHFORD. This was incredible to me since pada and yasoda etc. had 'cultivated' this rochshasha and had even forbade me from [years before]
calling him 'e. burke
cockroachford' which i determined he was when he
refused to write a single word back to me in response to my farm report and thousands of other pages of documents i sent the rascal, impostor scholar [ie. ravindra boot-licker] over many years, a fact that revealed coverup, since he purported to be studying the Hare Krishna movement, and here i was, gradually revealing ALL THE DIRTY SECRETS OF THE PSEUDO-LEADERS WHOM HE'D BEEN CONTACTING SINCE 1983 - MANY OF WHOM HE FORMED CLOSEAND ENDURING RELATIONSHIPS WITH [AS MENTIONED BY HIMSELF IN HIS BOOKS - INDEED, ROCHFORD HAD WORKED IN ISKCON EDUCATION DIRECTLY] ANYWAY, PADA HAD BEEN IRATE YEARS BEFORE WHEN I HAD COME CLOSE TO WRITING TO ROCHFORD CALLING HIM A COCKROACH FORD, ETC. NOW WHEN I REMINDED HIM [PADA] OF HIS FALSE SOCIETY FRIENSHIP AND LOVE PARADIGM AND THAT I HAD BEEN [as usual] RIGHT ABOUT ROCHFORD'S UNPRISTINE MOTIVES, AND THAT NOW PADA COULD AND SHOULD ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG ALL ALONG TO EMBRACE THE SNAKE, AND SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO ME PUBLICLY FOR ENCOURAGING ME TO WRONGLY AVOID CRITICIZING SUCH AN IMPOSTOR; AND, FURTHERMORE, SHOULD NOW TAKE THE RASCAL ROCHFORD SEVERELY TO TASK FOR HIS BLASPHEMOUS STATEMENTS IN THE PRESS AGAINST SRILA PRABHUPADA, PADA BECAME VERY, VERY RAGEFUL TOWARDS ME, AND STARTED SAYING I WAS AN SDG-OPHILE AND SUPPORTER OF CHILD MOLESTORS, ETC. unbelievable, considering i had exposed sdemong (Satsvarupa) as early as 1986, around the exact time that Sulocana was, and this fact is brought out clearly even in my 1996 trial with ISGONE, in which Baladeva V d was questioned by my attorney regarding an incident in which sdg's secretary came to my home seeking a donation for sdemong's book press, and i had chased him away by telling him: "when sdg apologizes to the world for the cheating that has gone on by all the false gurus, apologizes to Prabhupada and the public etc., THEN I WILL GIVE ALL MY MONEY TO HIS BOOK FUND, not until!" - which statement had also been made in the presence of my former wife, Draupadi devi dasi. Anyway, aside from moving out of isgone in early 1983 and exposing sdg when Sulocana also was waking up to his obnoxious quality, i had directly told SDG he was being a rascal on Dec. 30, 1992 at Tejoprakash's house, when sdg had summoned me to explain why i had written a book about ravindra's and co.'s cow and cowherd-abuse at gita-niggardly [which face-to-face expose' was followed two days later by a demonstration at an sdg pseudo-vyasapuja ceremony with over 100 guests present in the gitanagari temple room during mangal arti. [both of these encounters had been predicated by a startling dream i had been Graced with by Srila Prabhupada on Dec. 20, 1992, wherein HDG appeared and frankly disclosed that: "your [pseudo] guru has fallen away, I WANT YOU to fight this battle for ME!" - this so-called dream took place the very night before i went to the postoffice to distribute the packaged "Farm Reports" to the unsuspecting isgone world, and i was still plagued by doubts that perhaps i might be 'offending devotees' by sending out such a document kicking on ravindra's bogus regime. Prabhupada made it clear that i was indeed meant to go thru with the obvious, and He would help me as supreme commander. Anyway, subsequently, puranjana got hold [i think from hansadutta] copy of the farm report and he [WHOM, LIKE ABHINANDANA, I DID NOT PRIOR TO HIS PHONE CALL AND PADA NEWSLETTER DEPICTING THE GITA NAGARI FARM REPORT I'D WRITTEN, EVEN KNOW EXISTED IN THE WORLD] BEGAN TO ASSUME I WAS HIS SUPPORTER, and assured me i was playing an "important role in THE [ie. iskcon] reform movement." His friends also wrote me numerous letters in the same vein. I was a very obedient supporter, also, because i was so pleased that their was indeed a resistance movement. puranjana gave me many ideas for signs and protests. these are all memorialised in collages i made from photographs taken of the demonstrations i [usually] single-handedly performed at gitanagari, NY, Wash DC, etc.. One demonstration at GN, i had a sign withpada's words: HONK IF YOU'RE AGAINST CMG; DON'T IF YOUR HEAD'S IN THE SAND!" i carried another in a ry parade similar that pada also engineered. And, of course, pada's name, address, phone and email all appeared in every flyer and collage i distributed at these places. and videotape reveals my devoted complaince with pada's idea, even though i did have some reservations on the fanaticism he displayed. [funny how the language and slogans off puranjana's that i adapted, were criticized by people who actiually bought his message. today, also, i am criticized for my style, which unfortunatley i imbibed from pada - though i take total responsibility for foolishly allowing myself to be in any way influenced by this consummate pretender. bad assoc.! Anyway, sorry about the tangents; my point is this: i had faithfully served pada's interests because i thought for some time that he was sincerely into defending Prabhupada and exposing the evildoers; but gradually, GRADually Prabhupada Himself revealed that pada ranjana was only really interested in 'exposing the evildoers' not actually in defending Srila Prabhupada! AND WHEN I EXPOSED HIM AND ASSOCIATES FALSITY IN REGARDS THE NYTs Rochford/Laurie GOODSTEIN RAVINDRA "ISGONE"S CHILD ABUSE IS PRABHUPADA"S FAULT"< HE DECIDED I SHOULD BE 'EXCOMMUNICATED" FROM THE REFORM i quickly became persona non grata as i unrelentingly "called a snake a snake" [or a pada a pud] so, there's no truth to any of pada's 'post-sanat-support' expose'. and of course, there's all truth to my charge that these pada folks are fully to blame for Prabhupada being blamed for the child abuse and etc. They sanctioned [defacto] turley's blasphemy - it was nicely calculated, calculated to help advance pada's [and nityananda's, etc.] cause.
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