"Criticizing Srila Prabhupada" 



Dear prabhu's please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

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1. "Criticizing Srila Prabhupada". by Mother Mahavegavati
1. "Criticizing Srila Prabhupada". by Mother Mahavegavati

Hare Krsna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Please
accept my fallen obeisances.

I am submitting this for the consideration to all the
assembled Vaisnavas for their consideration:

saksad dharitvena samasta sastrair
uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhi
kintu prabhur ya priya eva tasya
vande guror sri caranavindam

The (bona fide) Spiritual Master is to be honored as
much as the Supreme Lord on account of his being the
most confidential Servitor of the Lord. This is
acknowledged in all revealed Scriptures, and is
followed by all authorities. Therefore I offer my
respectful obeisances unto the lotus feet of such a
spiritual master.

yasya prasadad bhagavat prasado
yasya prasadana gatih kuto pi
dhyayan stuvams tasyaiya sastri sandam
vande guror sri caranavindam

By the mercy of the spiritual master one attains the
mercy of Krsna. Without the grace of the spiritual
master no one can make any advancement. Therefore I
shall always remember my spiritual master and at least
three times a day I shall offer my respectful
obeisances unto the lotus feet of my spiritual master,
(His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada).

In CC Madhya lila 23.39,40 Lord Caitanya explains to
Sanatan Goswami, "Even the most learned man cannot
understand the words, activities and symptoms of a
person situated in love of Godhead. Even a most
learned scholar cannot understand the activities and
symptoms of an exalted personality in whose heart love
of Godhead has awakened."

It is NOT possible for the materially conditioned
mundane person to understand the unconditioned soul
who is situated in pure love of Godhead. Lord Caitanya
confirmed this when He spoke about the glories of
Mukunda, who became absorbed in ecstatic trance upon
seeing the peacock fan being used to shade the king of
whom he was the court physician. "Mukunda das
externally appears to be a royal physician engaged in
governmental service, but internally he has a deep
love for Krsna. Who can understand his love?"

Srila Prabhupada explains in that purport, "Unless Sri
Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu discloses the fact, no one
can understand who is actually a great devotee of the
Lord engaged in His service." Srila Prabhupada goes on
to quote the above mentioned verse, CC Madhya lila
23.39 and continues, "Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu knew
this very well, but ordinary men could not understand
it, for the activities and plans of a Vaisnava cannot
be understood by ordinary men."

We also have the example of Pundarika Vidyanidhi, who
to Gadadhar Pandit's eyes, at first appeared to be a
materialist due to Pundarika Vidyanidhi's material
opulence and external appearance. But when Mukunda
Dutta recited the Srimad Bhagavatam verse 10.6.38
concerning the liberation given to Putana Rakshasi,
Gadadhar Pandit seeing the ecstatic reactions
exhibited by Pundarika Vidyanidhi, realized the
elevated position of this pure Vaisnava. These
examples are given in scripture for us to realize that
it is not necessarily so easy to ascertain the
position of such advanced personalities, that even
great devotees may become bewildered in this regard,
what to speak of beginning practitioners like
ourselves. Thus, the true glories and elevated
position of such pure devotees can not be realized
unless one has the grace of the Lord or the grace of
another pure devotee who is able to reveal those
glories. Therefore it is explained in the Vedic
scriptures that one must approach a bonafide spiritual
master, and understand spiritual matters through him.
One cannot know Krsna or His pure devotee through
one's material scholarship or mental and/or
philosophical speculation.

I have noticed how so many devotees are criticizing
Srila Prabhupada even to the point of considering him
to be a materially conditioned soul. It is very
amazing to me considering how it is Srila Prabhupada
who has given us all the opportunity to come to
Krsna's Lotus Feet, be it directly or indirectly.
Seems to me, if one reflects on it honestly, it is
Srila Prabhupada who has been THE person to open the
door to the world for the extensive preaching of
Gaudiya Vaisnavism irregardless of who one's diksa (or
siksa) guru is. Ultimately everyone outside of India
who has come to Krsna consciousness, irrespective of
their diksa guru, has come due to Srila Prabhupada's
mercy. And so many people from inside India, as well.

(SB 4.19.37) "Any living being acting as the
incarnation of Lord Visnu is thus empowered by Lord
Visnu to preach the bhakti cult. Such a person can act
like Lord Visnu and defeat demons by arguments and
preach the bhakti cult exactly according to the
principles of sastra. As indicated in Bhagavad-gita,
whenever we find someone extraordinary preaching the
bhakti cult, we should know that he is especially
empowered by Lord Visnu, or Lord Krsna. As confirmed
in Caitanya-caritamrta (Antya 7.11), krsna-sakti vina
nahe tara pravartana: one cannot explain the glories
of the holy name of the Lord without being
specifically empowered by Him. If one criticizes or
finds fault with such an empowered personality, one is
to be considered an offender against Lord Visnu and is
punishable. Even though such offenders may dress as
Vaisnavas with false tilaka and mala, they are never
forgiven by the Lord if they offend a pure Vaisnava.
There are many instances of this in the sastras."

The bonafide guru being the external manifestation of
supersoul, how can anyone criticize or find fault with
him? The bonafide guru is compared to the captain of
the ship. It is he by whose expert guidance, a proper
disciple takes proper direction, and thus is enabled
to go back home to Godhead so long as the diciple is
not duplicitous.

nr deham adyam su labham su dulabham
plavam su kalpam guru karnadharam
mayanukulena nabhasvateritam
uman bhavabdhim na taret sa atma ha

"This human body which is rarely attained is the best
of all bodies being given all facilities for crossing
over the ocean of material nescience. It is compared
to a boat, and the Guru is the expert captain for
guiding that boat in the proper direction towards its
goal. The Vedas are favorable breezes meant to help
push the boat in the proper direction. For one who has
been given these facilities, but does NOT take proper
advantage of the, that person is to be known as an
'atma ha' a killer of the self."

Thus, the guru is the captain of the ship who guides
it to its final goal. Without a captain, a ship will
go off in any direction and for all practical
purposes, that ship will never reach it's intended

Vidura explains in SB 3.7.10
yat sevaya bhagavatah
kuta sthasya madhudvisa
rati raso bhavet tivrah
padayor vyasanardanah

"By serving the feet of the spiritual master, one is
enabled to develop transcendental ecstasy in the
service of the Personality of Godhead. Vidura goes on
to explain, "Persons whose austerity is meager can
hardly obtain the service of the pure devotees who
engage 100% in glorifying the Supreme Lord Who is the
Lord of the demigods and the controller of all living

Because Krsna is residing within the hearts of all
living entities and it is from Him that remembrance,
knowledge and forgetfulness come, (BG 15.15), then
don't we understand that whatever the pure devotee is
saying is perfect in that it is Krsna Who is arranging
the pure devotee's words. The pure devotees are 100%
surrendered to the Lord. Thus, when the pure devotees
are speaking on Krsna's behalf, WHY would Krsna allow
those pure devotees to make mistakes with relation to

We also have Prahlad Maharaja's verse, SB 7.5.34,
naisam matis tavad urukramanghrim
sprsaty anartha pagamo yad arthah
mahiyasam pada rajo 'bhisekam
niskincananam na vrnita yavat

"Unless they smear upon their bodies the dust of the
lotus feet of a Vaisnava completely freed from
material contamination, persons very much inclined
towards materialistic life cannot be attached to the
lotus feet of the Lord. Only by becoming Krsna
conscious and taking shelter of the Lotus Feet of the
Lord in this way, can one be freed from material

Srila Prabhupada explains in his SB 3.7.29 purport,
"Unless one achieves AT LEAST the brahminical
qualifications, one cannot understand the Vedic

How many of us can make the claim that we have AT
LEAST achieved the brahminical qualifications, (which
using the list given by Krsna in BG 18.42, consist of
peacefulness, self-control, truthfulness, austerity,
mercy, cleanliness (in both body and heart), wisdom
knowledge)? So WHO are WE to put so many questions in
such a challenging manner to the statements that Srila
Prabhupada has made? We are not only questioning Srila
Prabhupada's purports, AFTER TAKING DIKSA within Srila
Prabhupada's line of disciplic succession, but we are
ALSO questioning the Bhagavatam verses themselves. The
questions in and of themselves are not the problem,
but rather the challenging attitude with which they
are presented. Then there is the fact that some
"devotees" go so far as to think, infer, say and even
try to convince other devotees that Srila Prabhupada
"was conditioned," and they point fingers to what they
consider "questionable" purports.

Do we really believe that HDG Srila Prabhupada was
"conditioned by Indian culture," "conditioned by his
material education" etc., and that this was the reason
why he wrote the purports that he did? Srila
Prabhupada himself revealed to the devotees that his
purports were simply a matter of Krsna's dictating to
him, and his writing down those dictations. We should
take into consideration what was Srila Prabhupada's
"motives" in making his statements, both his written
and spoken statements. ONLY OUR Krsna consciousness.
Other than that, the order of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta
Sarasvati Thakur, and the empowerment of Krsna, Srila
Prabhupada had NO reason to leave Vrndavan to come to
this ghastly Western world to preach to the likes of
us and give us his association.

Do some of really DARE to go that far in our mind to
think that Srila Prabhupada "incorrectly" translated
or "misinterpreted" or even "misunderstood" the Srimad
Bhagavatam verses (and other literatures as well) due
to "his conditioning" or "his mistakes"? After all,
quite a number of devotees now do NOT seem to like,
and/or question many of the statements that are taken
STRAIGHT from the translations of the verses of Srimad
Bhagavatam, etc. Some of them are either calling for
"footnotes" or getting rid of those "controversial"
verses altogether. Whatever happened to dharmah
projjhita kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmatsaranam satam?
(This Bhagavat Purana kicks out ALL kinds of cheating
religions and propounds the HIGHEST truth.) Thus, it
speaks the truth; NO compromise. But our false egos,
(from which the false bodily conception originates),
and minds do NOT like to accept these truths.

SB 1.5.11 explains that that literature which contains
the transcendental description of the glories of the
name, fame, form and pastimes of Krsna is presented
"to create a REVOLUTION," (a change in one's heart and
in society in general), in the lives of this world's
MISDIRECTED civilization. ("Viplavah" is the word used
in the verse meaning "revolutionary".) The words of
the pure devotee will also have this SAME heavy effect
on the hearts of listeners. Those words are NOT meant
to titilate or placate our false egos; instead they
are meant to free us from it. They are meant to BREAK
the false ego of the conditioned soul. They are meant
to FREE us from that bondage to the body which that
false ego creates. We are so STUCK to all of our own
materialistic conceptions to which we hold on to so
tightly due to the false ego. The pure devotees' words
are meant to free us from the bondage of these false
egos, even when those words come in the form of a
smash with relation to how we see ourselves in our own
body, or in the form of words which may shock us with
relation to our other misconceptions, both spiritual
AND material. The frog in the well knows only his well
and sees everything with relationship to THAT limited
experience. Our knowledge, (gained through our limited
and imperfect senses), does not go past our
condition-ing. The pure devotee teaches that which
Krsna speaks. How can he possibly speak imperfectly?
How can he make mistakes in what he is presenting? It
is Krsna Who is speaking through him. It is Krsna Who
uses the pure devotee as His mouthpiece. Would we dare
to question Srila Prabhupada's credibility and say
that he was "lying" to us when he told us that it was
Krsna Who was dictating to him the purports.

Srila Prabhupada in his purport to SB 3.7.26 explains,
"yasmin vijnate sarvam evam vijnatam bhavati. This
Vedic hymn declares emphatically that the devotees of
the Lord knows everything material and spiritual in
relationship with the Lord. The pure devotee acts
according to how Krsna directly empowers him/her to
act. The pure devotee both knows and does not know
whatever it is that Krsna wants him/her to know or not
know for his/her service to Krsna. Devotees are not
simply emotional as is ill conceived by certain less
intelligent men. Their direction is practical. They
know everything that is and all the details of the
Lord's domination over the different creations, and if
they don't know, it is because Krsna chooses to
arrange that they should not know, (ie. as in the case
of Mother Yasoda's not knowing that Putana was a demon
coming to kill Krsna). In terms of the bonafide
spiritual master, s/he is given whatever knowledge is
necessary for him/her to preach Krsna consciousness
and to deliver Krsna to the disciple, and the disciple
to Krsna.

Krsna Himself says in SB:
acarya mam vijaniyan
nava manyeta karhicit
na martya buddhya suyeta
sarva devo mayam gurum

"One should know the acarya to be My very self and
should never disrespect him in any way. One should not
envy him thinking him to be an ordinary man for he is
the sum total of the demigods." These are KRSNA'S
words. Who are WE to deny what Krsna HIMSELF has said
about His pure representative? How, after seeing all
of Srila Prabhupada's accomplishments can we even
THINK that he was not Krsna's pure and empowered
representative? It is like one's seeing Krsna in
action directly and NOT believing Him to be the
Supreme Personality of Godhead. Simple fact of the
matter is that due to one's desire to NOT fully
surrender to Krsna, Krsna will cover over one's
consciousness; thus, one will not be able to see
Krsna's empowered representative as being the pure
devotee representative of Krsna that he is, and thus,
one has "good reason" NOT to surrender and accept the
pure devotee as he is.

We are thinking, "Who is Srila Prabhupada to say...? I
know better. How can he say that women...? How can he
say the sun...? Where did he get THOSE numbers from?
How does he know...?" And there are even devotees who
are calling Srila Prabhupada "fanatical" - yes, they
use that EXACT word - when it comes to following the
four regulative principles, specifically with regard
to the "no illicit sex" and "no intoxication" and they
will say, "It is IMPOSSIBLE..." Other devotees
question the 50 rounds for having a child. And then
there is, "Hey, what's wrong with a little pot now and
then?" And the list goes on. No problem; if you want
"compromised Vaisnavism" for yourself, fine, but admit
that that is what YOU want. And DON'T try to find
fault with the unadulterated Vaisnava philosophy as it
is, or the pure devotee who lives it and presents it
on Lord Caitanya's behalf. One of the most important
qualities on the spiritual path is honesty. One MUST
be honest with oneself about where one is at, where
one is strong, and where one is weak, and one can NOT
compromise or misuse the philosophy to facilitate
one's weaknesses. Rather, one should know what the
standard is, what his weaknesses are, and accept the
fact that one may be weak, and aspire to eventually
overcome one's weaknesses and vices. If one does not
have this mentality, (born out of humility), then one
can NEVER attain the goal, being stopped by pride,
falsity, conceit, arrogance, and the like.

Published in a December 1931 issue of the "Harmonist"
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur explained, "In
order to be put on the track of the Absolute,
listening to the words of the pure devotee is
absolutely necessary. The spoken word of the devotee
is the Absolute. It is only the Absolute who can give
Himself away to the constituents of His power. The
Absolute appears to the listening ear of the
conditioned soul in the form of the name on the lips
of the sadhu. This is the key to the whole position.
The works of Thakur Bhaktivinode direct the empiric
pedant to discard his wrong method and inclination on
the threshold of the real quest of the Absolute. If
the pedant still chooses to carry his errors into the
realm of the Absolute Truth, he only marched by a
deceptive bye-path into the darker ignorance by his
ARROGANT STUDY of the scriptures. The method offered
by Thakur Bhaktivinode is identical with the object of
the quest. The method is not really grasped except by
the grace of the pure devotee. The arguments, indeed,
are these. But they can only corroborate, but can
never be a substitute for, the words from the living
source of the truth who is none other than the pure
devotee of Krsna, the concrete personal absolute."

These are the words of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati
Thakur, one of Krsna's pure devotees, and acknowledged
in the academic world as the greatest scholar of his
time. With that combination, who are any of us to try
to discount these words? Thus, the pure devotee IS the
person who KNOWS Krsna, and he KNOWS the ESSENCE of
the scriptures. The acarya is also the person who, by
Krsna's EMPOWERMENT, knows how to implement Krsna
consciousness according to circumstance, place and

So many devotees are putting forth so many criticisms
of Srila Prabhupada - from A to Z - and we have NO
proper understanding of WHO Srila Prabhupada REALLY

In CC Madhya 2.93 Srila Prabhupada in the purport
says, "According to Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati
Thakura, there are three kinds of devotees, know as
bhajana-vijna (experts in devotional service),
bhajana-sila (devotees engaged in devotional service),
and krsna-name diksita krsna-namakari (initiated
devotees engaged in chanting). The author of CC begs
the mercy of all these devotees and asks them to be
pleased with him. He says, 'Let the neophyte devotees
- the devotees who are very expert in arguing though
they have no sense of advanced devotional service, who
think themselves very advanced because the imitate
some smarta brahmana - let such devotees not be
displeased with me, thinking that I have committed
errors in this regard. I beg their pardon with great
humility, but I am submitting that I personally have
no desire to add or subtract anything. I have only
written what i have heard in the disciplic succession
because I am dedicated to the lotus feet of previous
acaryas like Svarupa Damodara, Raghunath das Gosvami
and Rupa gosvami. I have only written what I have
learned from them.'"

I think we should take heed of this paragraph and
apply it to His Divine Grace's spoken AND written
word, and be VERY CAREFUL NOT to make offenses to
Srila Prabhupada's Lotus Feet.

I remain your fallen servant,

Mahavegavati Dasi
Hare Krsna