A compilation by
Bhakta Paul:
You may call the
Vedas Hindu, but "Hindu" is a foreign name. WE ARE NOT HINDUS.
(Sri Isopanisad Introduction)
Simply we are teaching that “Become God conscious.” God is
neither Hindu nor Muslim nor Christian. He’s God. And WE ARE
ALSO NOT HINDU or Muslim or Christian. This is our bodily
designation. We are all pure, part and parcel of the Supreme.
(BG Lecture NY 23/11/66)
Prabhupada: (chuckles) And that mataji, she has taken land. I
don't like that idea. Some Hindus are supporting. I don't want a
Hindu temple. Our constitution is different. We want everyone.
Krsna consciousness is for everyone. IT IS NOT A HINDU
PROPOGANDA. People may not misunderstand. And actually, till now
IN OUR SOCIETY THERE IS NOT A SINGLE OTHER HINDU THAN ME.
(laughter) Is that not? (Meeting 9/6/69) New Vrindavana)
Lord Caitanya, He said that “I am not a brahmana. I am not a
Christian. I AM NOT A HINDU. I am not a sannyasi. I am nothing
of this sort.” Then what You are? “I am the servant’s servant’s
servant of Krsna. That is My identification.” And when you
identify yourself in that way, you are liberated. That is Krsna
consciousness, perfection of Krsna consciousness. (CC Lecture
New York 21/12/66)
Prabhupada: No, no. Everyone will help us. Maybe... In that way
sometimes Hindus are also against. It is not the Mohammedans.
Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s time, even THE HINDUS WERE AGAINST HIS
MOVEMENT, the brahmanas. They complained to the Kazi that “THIS
IS NOT HINDU MOVEMENT.” You see? The sankirtana movement.
Therefore Kazi had to take steps to stop the sankirtana
movement. So Kazi took step on the ground of complaint by the
Hindus.
Nitai: That’s similar to what happened in Bombay.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Nitai: That’s similar to what happened...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Nitai: ...in Bombay.
Prabhupada: THE HINDUS THEY WANTED TO BREAK OUR TEMPLE, and they
broke part of it. You do not know?
(Morning Walk 6/3/74)
Actually,
“Hindu,” THERE IS NO SUCH WORD AS “HINDU” RELIGION. We don’t
find in the Vedic scripture. Hindu religion... Hindu religion is
a modern term given by the foreigners. Actually the Indians,
bharatiya, they, their religion is varnasrama-dharma, religion
of four castes and four spiritual orders, four spiritual orders
and four social orders. The persons who follow these four orders
of social status and four orders of spiritual advancement, they
are called varnasrama. SO HINDU RELIGION IS A MISCALCULATION.
(CC Lecture - NY 11/1/67)
But India, they have given up the real religious system,
sanatana-dharma, or varnasrama-dharma. FICTITIOUSLY, THEY HAVE
ACCEPTED A HODGEPODGE THING WHICH IS CALLED HINDUISM. THEREFORE
THERE IS TROUBLE.
Everywhere, but India especially, they are... Vedic religion...
Vedic religion means varnasrama-dharma. That is... Krsna says,
God says, catur-varnyam maya srstam [Bg. 4.13]. So that is, what
is called, obligatory. Just like law is obligatory. You cannot
say that “I don’t take this law.” No. You have to take it if you
want to have a happy. You cannot become outlaw. Then you’ll not
be happy. You’ll be punished.
So God says maya srstam. “It is given by Me.” So how we can deny
it? And that is religion. (Conv. - Vrindavan 28/6/76)
Other religious sects, they say this is Hindu belief. When Krsna
says dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara: just like
the child is becoming boy, boy is becoming young man. This is
science. AND WHY DO YOU SAY IT IS HINDU BELIEF? Does it mean
that a Muslim or Christian child does not become a boy? What do
you mean by Hindu belief? But they say it like that, Hindu
belief. Is that correct if somebody says it is Hindu belief? NO,
IT IS FACT, IT IS SCIENCE. What do you think? Is that Hindu
belief?" (Tehran 8/8/76)
So where is the difficulty to understand? Plain thing. Plain
thing. But we are stubborn. We do not wish to understand. This
is not a sectarian; this is a science. If a child becomes a boy,
is that sectarian? The Hindu child becomes a boy, Hindu boy, and
the Christian child becomes a Christian. That is outward, Hindu,
Muslim, Christian. But within this body... I am Hindu or
Christian because I have got this body from the Christian
father-mother, Hindu father-mother. But that is body. I am not
this body. Therefore we have to understand first that “I am not
this body. Therefore I am not Hindu, not Muslim, not Christian,
not black, not white. I am pure spirit soul.” Aham brahmasmi.
THIS IS THE FIRST BASIC KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS NOT SECTARIAN. This
is a basic knowledge, you believe or not believe. (BG Lect. –
22/4/76 Melbourne)
In Durban we went to that university. You remember? That
Arya-samaji? He was speaking that “This is Hindu conception.
Hindu conception.” And what do you mean by Hindu conception? A
child grows to become a boy. Is that Hindu conception? It is
science. When Krsna said, dehino ’smin yatha dehe kaumaram
yauvanam jara [Bg.
2.13], that’s a fact. It is applicable to the Hindus, to the
Muslim, to the Christian, everyone. Why do you say it is Hindu
conception? SO, YOU HAVE TO PRESENT IN THAT WAY, THAT THEY MAY
NOT THINK THAT IT IS HINDU CONCEPTION. Because they are all
rascals, unless you explain it, that this is meant for everyone,
they will misunderstand that Bhagavata is for the Hindus or for
the Indians. It is for everyone. But one must realize. There is
no question of Hindu conception or Muslim conception. (MW -
Mayapur 20/1/76)
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HINDU DHARMA. NO. There is no such
word in the whole Vedic literature. You won’t find in the
Bhagavad-gita or Bhagavata as Hindu dharma. There is one word as
bhagavata-dharma, but there is no such word as Hindu dharma.
This Hindu dharma or Hindu... This is creation by our neighbour,
Indian neighbour, the Middle-east Muhammadans. They gave the
name, Indian people, as “Hindu.” “Hindu” means... There is one
river, Sindhu. The Muhammadans, they pronounce sa as ha. So
those who were on the other side of the Sindhu River, Hindu
River, they were called Hindus. But actually Vedic religion is
neither for Hindus nor for Christian nor for... It is meant for
the human being. Vedic literature... This Bhagavad-gita,
Srimad-Bhagavatam, they are VEDIC literature.
(SB Lecture - NY 5/3/75)
Bhakti, devotional service is not dependent on any material
condition. Because one man is very rich, he can get Krsna? No.
Because one man is very poor, he cannot get Krsna? No. That’s
not right. Because one is Hindu or Indian, he can get Krsna, not
others? No. That is also not. Krsna is unconditionally for
everyone. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: sarva yonisu
kaunteya [Bg. 14.4]. Otherwise, how He can be God? If He is a
Hindu God, just like they describe in the dictionary that Krsna,
a Hindu God—that is nonsense. Krsna is for everyone. Krsna does
not say that “I am a Hindu God.’’ But these rascals say Krsna is
Hindu God. This is going on. You see in the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna
says, sarva yonisu kaunteya [Bg.14.4]. “In all species of
life.’’ Sambhavanti murtayah. There are as many different forms
of life. Tasam mahad yoni, brahma: “Their mother is this
material nature, and I am their seed-giving father.’’ Krsna says
that. So how can Krsna be Indian or Hindu or this or that? No.
Krsna is for everyone. And the proof is that five years ago in
the Western countries nobody knew what is Krsna. How they’re
taking Krsna in so loving attitude? This is the proof that Krsna
is for everyone, and everyone is for Krsna. Try to understand
this philosophy. Don’t be mislead. IT IS NOT A SECTARIAN
RELIGION. IT IS THE FACT. (Arrival Lecture - Gainsville
29/7/71)
So that activity and karmis’ activity, there is difference. The
karmi’s activity is on upadhi. “I am American,” “I am Indian,”
“I am Hindu,” “I am Muslim,” “I am Christian.” With this upadhi,
we are acting. But bhakti means without upadhi.
Sarvopadhi-virnirmuktam. Activity without upadhi. Working not as
American. Working not as Indian. Working not as Hindu. Working
not as Muslim. That is sarvopadhi-vinirmuktah tat-paratvena
nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. If we think that “I am Christian,”
“I am Hindu,” “I am American,” that is with upädhi. When we
purely think that “We are...,” or “I am servant of Krsna. My
only business is to satisfy Krsna,” that activity is called
bhakti. If I become interested in some party, that is not...
Sometimes people criticize these American and European devotees,
that they think that “They are American devotee; we are Hindu
devotee. There is difference.” This is not bhakti-marga. This is
upadhi. Why you should think yourself as Hindu? Why you should
think of others who have come from America as American? That is
less intelligent. Krsna-bhakta...
Vaisnave jati-buddhih. If one thinks of Vaisnava as belonging to
this class, this nation, he has no vision. Naraki. That is
called naraki-buddhih. Vaisnave jati-buddhih arcye siladhir
gurusu nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhih. If we think the Deity
as made of stone and made of wood, arcye sila-dhir; guruhu,
nara-matih, if we accept spiritual master as ordinary human
being; vaisnave jati-buddhih, and if we take a Vaisnava as
belonging to America or Europe or India... No. They are
transcendental. Neither the Deity in the temple is stone,
NEITHER THE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, NOR THE
VAISNAVA BELONGS TO ANY CASTE. This vision is perfect vision.
When you come to this vision, that is bhakti. Tat-paratvena
nirmalam. A bhakta has to become purified. Tat-paratvena, being
dovetailed with the service of tat, om tat sat. Tat-param. This
is the process of devotional service. One should not be
designated “I am this,” “I am that,” “I am that.” No. The world
should unite. This Krsna consciousness movement is so nice that
one should forget that he’s Indian or Hindu or Christian or
American. Everything should unite as servant of Krsna.
That is bhakti-marga. (NOD Class - Vrindavan 1/11/72)
Gopala Krsna: They are saying, they are saying we are not
Hindus.
Prabhupada: Hm?
Gopala Krsna: They are saying this is not Hinduism.
Prabhupada: Hindus?, we are Krsnian. It they, if...
Hansaduta: Krsnans.
Prabhupada: Krsna, in the dictionary it is said, that Hindu God
but we are claiming, that Krsnian, Krsna. Krsna conscious. Krsna
conscious means “Godder than the Hindus.” When you say we are
not Hindu that we are not restricted with the Hindi community.
That is the meaning. Because Krsna says, “I am for everyone.” So
why should we be restricted to the Hindi community. Krsna says
sarva yonisu, “In all forms of life, I am the seed giving
father.” Why he should be simply Hindu? This point should be
stressed. Sarva yoni means eighty four million..., eighty,
eighty, eight million four hundred thousands, all forms. Krsna
is for all of them. We therefore, why Krsna should be restricted
to the Hindu community? Hindus are included but Krsna is not
restricted to Hindus. Krsna’s picture, that Bal Gopal. He’s
embracing the calves. Krsna does not embrace only the gopis,
He’s embracing the calves also. That is Krsna. He’s equal to
everyone. Mah hi partha vyapasritya ye ’pi syuh papa-yonayah.
Papa-yonayah, so many low-grade forms of life, they’re also
His.... Devotees are part and parcel. Mamaivamso ji... Quote
this: Krsna is not restricted to the Hindu. We say, “We are not
Hindu,” means we are not.... We embrace everyone. We are not
restricted to the Hindus. The so-called Christians, so-called
Mohammedans, they.... We embrace everyone, and actually we are
doing that. Why should we simply be compact within the
limitation of Hindus. That is not our purpose. Then we would not
have come to western countries. We actually spreading universal
brotherhood. Krsna is the father and everyone our brother. We
are claiming, all our fallen brothers to become Krsna conscious.
This is our movement. Caitanya Mahaprabhu (said) prthivite ache
yata nagaradi grama, this is our movement. Why you should be
restricted, to the India, and amongst the Hindus. (Room Conv.
- Vrindavana 2/11/76)
So sad-dharma required. The, in this material world the
so-called dharmas, this Hindu dharma, Muslim dharma and
Christian dharma and Buddhist dharma and so many... They are not
sad-dharma. They are asad-dharma. “Because I am born in the
family of a Christian, I am Christian.” “Because I am born in
the family of Hindu, I am Hindu.” And next time I may (be) born
in the family of a dog. There is no dharma. So these are not
sad-dharma. These are all asad-dharma, for the time being. Asad
means “that will not stay.” You are Hindu. How long you are
Hindu? Say, fifty years. Or you are Indian. How long you are
Indian? Say, fifty, sixty, hundred years. But again you have to
become something else. That we do not know. We are working very
hard, “I am Hindu,” “I am Muslim,” “I am Indian,” “I am
American.” These upadhi. But the upadhi may be changed next
moment. At any moment. So what is your real dharma? This is
temporary dharma for the body. What is your real dharma? Real
dharma is sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg.
18.66]. That is sad-dharma. That is sad-dharma. That will
continue eternally. (SB Lect - Bombay 11/11/74)
This is the position. We are many, and God is one. So if we
accept one God, then where is the chance of different religious
system? God is one. God is neither Christian nor Hindu or Muslim
or... No. God is God. Just like gold. Gold is gold. Either in
the Hindu community, or Muslim community, gold is gold. Because
gold is there in some Hindu community, nobody says “Hindu gold.”
Does anybody say, “It is Hindu gold” or “It is Christian gold”?
No. Gold is gold. Similarly, God is one. There is no “Hindu God”
or “Muslim God” or “Christian God.” This is mistake. “We believe
God in this way...,” that is nonsense. No. God is one, and you
have to see what is the characteristic of God. Just like when it
is gold, everyone wants to see whether it is actually gold or
imitation gold. That we have to see. There cannot be Hindu gold,
Muslim gold, Christian gold. No. Simply you have to see whether
it is actually gold, acceptable. That should be the subject
matter of theology, to know actually what is God and to
understand what is our relationship with God. (SB Lecture -
LA 26/6/75)
Prabhupada: Everyone should understand God and the relationship
with God and act accordingly. Then it is perfect religion. And
if there is no conception of God, no carrying out order of the
God, that is not religion. That is cheating. But generally they
do not accept God—still, he is stamping himself that “I am
Hindu,” “I am Muslim,” “I am Christian.” He has no idea what is
God, how to abide by His order, and they are fighting that “I am
Christian and you are Hindu. Therefore we must fight.” This is
going on. Nobody understands what is God. Pseudo religion.
Practically there is no religion. If there is no government—you
make your law; I make my law—then how there will be peace? That
is the position. They do not understand what is God, and “I am
Christian” or “Hindu” or “Mohammedan, so let us fight.” That’s
all.
Dr. Kneupper: Do you think that there is a special way that
Hinduism looks upon man’s place in the universe?
Prabhupada: The Hindu religion is a vague term. It is a vague
term. It is not clear. It is not clear. Real term is, it is
called, Vedic principle. Vedic principle. And in the
Bhagavad-gita it is said: Vedic knowledge means to understand
God. Vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyam [Bg. 15.15]. So anyone
who tries to understand God, he is in the Vedic line. Veda means
knowledge, so as you get the stock of knowledge, that is called
Vedas. But as soon as we say Vedas, they think it is Hindu.
Mathematics is a science. So any scientific man will accept
mathematics. Where is the question of Hindu mathematics? Gold is
gold. If it is in the hand of Hindu, it is Hindu gold? Hindu,
Muslim gold? Gold is gold. When we give the Vedic knowledge,
they think it is Hindu idea. (Room Conv. –Vrindavana 6/11/76)
So at the present moment, being entrapped by the material
nature, we have accepted different types of dharmas. That is
artificial. That is artificial. “I am Hindu,” “I am Muslim,” “I
am Christian,” “I am Buddhist,” “I am this,” “I am that.” These
are all in relationship with this body. Accidentally if I am
born in a Hindu family, or Muslim family, or Christian family, I
identify myself, “I am Hindu,” “I am Muslim,” “I am Christian.”
But real identification is, as I have already explained to you,
aham brahmasmi, I am Brahman. I am the spirit soul. (SB Lect.
– Hyderebad 26/11/72)
Mahamsa: THEY WILL SAY THAT THIS KRSNA CULTURE IS HINDUISM.
Prabhupada: THEN HE’S A RASCAL. PROVE IT IN THE COURT. KRSNA IS
NOT HINDUISM. NEVER.... Is there anything in the Bhagavad-gita
that Krsna says, “I am for the Hindus or for the Indians”?
Acyutananda: The Hindu law is so elastic, anyone who calls
himself a Hindu or who practices any branch...
Mahamsa: Or puts on tilaka.
Acyutananda: Puts on tilaka, he may have the lowest character or
the highest standard, anyone, he will be all considered a Hindu.
Prabhupada: So this should be taken to court, on the Supreme
Court.
Harikesa: But if there is no definition of Hindu, how can you
prove...
Prabhupada: THERE IS NO HINDU. It is not.... THEREFORE WE ARE
NOT HINDU.
Acyutananda: Well, they’ll say, “This is our definition. This is
what we say a Hindu is.”
Prabhupada: Huh?
Acyutananda: The court says, “This is what we say a Hindu is. SO
YOU’RE HINDUS.”
Prabhupada: NO, NO. And court can say anything, but then why not
put it into the judgment of many judges?
Harikesa: Then we have to establish what is Hinduism...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Harikesa: ...and what is Krsna consciousness.
Acyutananda: It is already established.
Prabhupada: You can define anything. That does not mean that
your definition is perfect. Actually we have to.... Who...?
Suppose Hindu. So who is not accepting Bhagavad-gita? But where
is...? In the Bhagavad-gita where is the mention of “Hindu”? Hm?
Krsna says that “I am the father of all living entities.” So WHY
DO THEY SAY THAT THIS IS HINDUISM?
Acyutananda: “Well, all religions say that they are the best.
Jesus Christ says, ‘Everyone who comes to me, they will get the
grace of God.’ So the same thing. But still they are Christians
and you are Hindus.”
Prabhupada: So this cannot stay in the court. Krsna’s
instruction is not for the Hindus. Nowhere it is mentioned.
Tamala Krsna: The word “Hindu” doesn’t appear in the Vedas
anywhere.
Acyutananda: Then why do you use in the Krsna consciousness the
Hindu caste marks, Hindus caste marks and tilakas? This is all
Hinduism.
Prabhupada: NO, THIS IS NOT HINDUISM. Appears like Hindu. Just
like you appear like an Indian sannyasi, but you are not Indian.
Acyutananda: The judge is wearing a white wig and a British
suit. He’s not British either.
Prabhupada: No, we are clearly stating Krsna consciousness.
Harikesa: Yes, but Krsna is a Hindu god.
Prabhupada: That is your definition. Krsna doesn’t say.
Harikesa: But my definition counts ’cause I’m in charge.
Prabhupada: You can do any nonsense. That is....
Therefore you have to be taken to the court, that “How you
can...”
Tamala Krsna: But they are the court.
Prabhupada: “...talk like nonsense and do like nonsense? Then
anyone can do any nonsense thing? Then who will control you?”
Harikesa: That’s the point.
Mahamsa: The chief justice himself was saying like that in
Madras. Their opinion will come in their favor.
Prabhupada: No, they can give opinion, but there is supreme
court. There is international court. We shall go...
Mahamsa: International court?
Gopala Krsna: That’s only for disputes between countries,
international court.
Prabhupada: Yes, it is country—”We are American. They are
forcing us to become a Hindu.” This is between country. You have
to tackle with intelligence.
Mahamsa: It’s become a world issue.
Acyutananda: In most books about Hinduism they describe that
Hinduism is a cult where they worship many gods and ultimately
God is formless.
Prabhupada: No.
Acyutananda: So we are against that. Then we are not Hindus even
philosophically according to that.
Prabhupada: Yes. We are against all so-called cheating religion.
THE HINDUISM IS ALSO A CHEATING RELIGION. We are preaching
Bhagavata, and Bhagavata beginning that “We have kicked out all
cheating religion.” What is cheating religion? That one has to
understand. And Bhagavata says, dharmam tu saksad
bhagavat-pranitam:
[SB 6.3.19] “Religion means the order given by God.”
If you do not know who is God, “imperson,” then where is your
religion? We have to tackle things.
Gopala Krsna: They will consult all the standard dictionaries
about Krsna’s definition and all the...
Prabhupada: Dictionary is not the standard. The standard is the
book itself. That is our preaching.
You may bring some dictionary made by some fools. No.
We have to take reference. Therefore we are presenting
Bhagavad-gita As It Is.
Acyutananda: Well, even Jesus Christ just said, “I am for all,”
but there is Christianity.
Prabhupada: Yes, that is a fact. Either God or God’s
representative, He is for everyone. Suhrdah sarva-bhutanam. That
is the definition of sadhu.
Titikaavah karunikah suhrdah sarva-bhutanam. A saintly
person..., as God is for everyone, a saintly person is for
everyone. Why he should be for Hindu or Muslim or Christian?
That is the definition of saintly person.
Suhrdah. Suhrdah means well-wisher. So either Christ or any
Vaisnava, he is well-wisher for everyone.
[break] ...suhrdah sarva-bhutanam. We are preaching all over the
world and they are appreciating.
Harikesa: So many others have preached Hinduism but have no
result.
Prabhupada: No result. Why they should become Hindu?
Acyutananda: That sign is there, “Swami Vivekananda, the Hindu
monk.”
Prabhupada: But who cares for Ramakrishna Mission?
Hindu monk, but who cares for the Ramakrishna Mission?
For the last eighty-five years they are working. How many Hindus
they have made? Simply bogus propaganda.
They advertise that “We have made all Americans...”
But where the Americans? They picked up two American ladies,
that’s all. Where is the Hindu sadhus eating meat? [break]…
Prabhupada: Foreign devotees, they are joining this movement not
because it is a Hindu culture. They take it as a real spiritual
culture. Otherwise why, for the last hundred, two hundred years,
the Hindu sannyasis, yogis, were going there? Who did accept it?
Did anybody? (Morning Walk - 08/01/76)
This led to a long discussion whether our ISKCON temples could
also be taken over. If they could, it would be on the basis of
their being "Hindu" temples. So Srila Prabhupada, in order to
avoid any government interference, suggested that we register
the temples as American property. Apart from that, he said WE
ARE NOT HINDU. The word Hindu isn't in the Bhagavad-gita, and
the teachings of Bhagavad-gita are for everyone, not just
Hindus. SRILA PRABHUPADA STRONGLY EMPHASIZED THIS POINT AND EVEN
SAID THAT WE COULD GO TO COURT TO PROVE WE ARE NOT HINDUS. (Conversation
6/1/76 Anbdhra Pradesh - Hari Sauri Dasa –ATD)
Mahesh: The other Swamiji, Swami Kaivalya does not know English.
You have heard of Swami Kaivalya?
Prabhupada: No, what is his philosophy? He is Vaisnava?
Mahesh: Hmmm, I think he is not Vaisnava. But actually, in our
Hindu religion, all paths are same and all is one.
Prabhupada: All is one? So we can just take your building?
Mahesh: Ummm. Actually, Swamiji, there are many Hindu families
here in Kobe. They are all interested in seeing you. All have
heard of the famous Hare Krsna Swamiji. And everyone will be
coming tonight. If the program is successful, they can support
one Hindu temple for your devotees to run in Kobe.
Prabhupada: WHAT IS THIS HINDU? HINDU MEANS HODGE-PODGE. All is
one. This is nonsense. Where is the word “Hindu” mentioned in
Sastra? In Bhagavad-gita? In Vedas? Anywhere? Where is this
“Hindu” mentioned even one time? Anyplace? One place?
Mahesh: Ummm.
Prabhupada: [To Mr. Santanam.]: You are born in a brahmana
family. Any one place? No, this Hindu is a name given by
Mohammedans. They cannot pronounce Indus River, so they are
calling those on the other side Hindus in their own
pronunciation. You know this? [Pause.] You don’t know. But you
can learn. To learn, one must approach a bona fide spiritual
master and hear from him. This is the process. Tad viddhi
pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya. We must serve him and inquire
from him. Then he will train us to see the truth. By training we
can develop.
M. Santanam: Swamiji, who is real guru?
Prabhupäda: A guru knows Krsna.
Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena. His eyes are decorated
with love of Krsna. He can see Krsna everywhere. Become trained
by such a spiritual master, and then you will understand
everything. WE ARE NOT HINDUS, AND WE ARE NOT TRAINING THESE
BOYS TO BECOME HINDUS. We are training them to love Krsna, God.
(SP Conversation Japan 1972 - Bhurijana Dasa MGM)
So this is the warm invitation of Krishna Consciousness. It has
nothing to do with black or white, young or old, or believe me,
Christian or Jew or Hindu or anything like that. We consider
these to be as much a part of false ego—Christian, Hindu, Jew—as
we do black, white, young, old, man or woman. Because they were
delegated to this body—I'm born in a Christian family, I call
myself a Christian; I'm born in a Hindu family, I call myself a
Hindu—so because of this body I'm a Hindu, because of this body
I'm a Jew, and if I was born a million years ago would I be a
Hindu, Christian or Jew? No. But I'd still be a servant, I'd
still have my consciousness. See? Suppose you're born a hundred
thousand years from now? Are you going to be a Christian or a
Hindu or a Jew? No. But you'll still have your consciousness,
you'll still have to serve, and you'll still want to be happy.
(VISNUJANA SWAMI - Festival Address Oregon 1/6/75)