IT IS ALREADY TACTFUL |
Aksayananda: It's so bad. They give people... (break) ...and
eating so much nonsense. So the preaching in India has to be
done very, very tactfully.
Prabhupada: No, just like I was speaking from Bhagavatam. Aksayananda: Just what you have spoken. But our actions must be very tactful also. Prabhupada: If you speak only on the subject matter as it is mentioned in the books, it is already tactful. Yasyam sruyamanayam krsne parama-puruse, bhaktir utpadyate pumsah soka-moha-bhayapaha. Now they are in a position of soka-moha-bhaya. So you take to Krsna consciousness. This is the best tact. Now it is the time. Now they are put into soka-moha-bhaya. It is already there going on, soka-moha-bhaya. But it is now special time for soka-moha-bhaya. So you have to take it. It may be out of fear, bhaya, they may take to Krsna consciousness.
[S.P.Room
Conversation September 6, 1976, Vrndavana]
Note: So when Sanat
prabhu and myself present quotes from Srila Prabhupada's books
which described the hellish suffering awaiting all those souls
who are blaspheming His Divine Grace. Or those quotes which
reveal that those who are silent in the face of such blasphemy
will meet with the same fate, [See
Defending Srila Prabhupada's Honor] certain rascals such as
Puranjana dasa and Kapindra swami say our quoting Srila
Prabhupada is fanatical and will make devotees look bad in the
eyes of the public. Kapindra swami even decided he would ban our
center from the Prabhupada Sankirtana Society for our quoting
from Srila Prabhupada's books over the internet, by saying thus:
"The "Prabhupada
Sankirtan Society" officially rejects Mukunda Prabhu's recently
publicized desire to violently attack certain individuals who,
for complex reasons of their own, have themselves publically
defamed our beloved spiritual master Srila Prabhupada. Though we
sympathize with Mukunda's anger and appreciate the wonderful
service he has done for Srila Prabhupada, we believe his
current position only adds to the defamation he is trying to
counteract. Therefore we are no longer affiliated with
Mukunda Prabhu or his temple in Oldham England, though this does
not exclude the possibility of reconcilaition for which we all
fervently pray"
Kapindra Swami.
Note: So Kapindra
swami says our quoting from Srila Prabhupada and defending him
from dishoner will bring more defamation to His Divine Grace.
Srila Prabhupada's conclusion is different as we can see from
the above quote:
"If
you speak only on the subject matter as it is mentioned in the
books, it is already tactful."
Note: So it does
appear that those who accuse us of being fanatics for quoting
from Srila Prabhupada's books don't have the faith that Srila
Prabhupada's writings are already supremely tactful due to their
being free from all material qualities. They think they are more
intelligent than Srila Prabhupada and know better how to deal
with the public !
Srila Prabhupada
instructed us when our movement was challenged in this way before that
we should bring all his books to the judge and let him read them ! Yes
we can prove from Srila Prabhupada's books that those who blaspheme
against a pure devotee of God like tamal, puranjana, turley and co.
are the lowest of creatures and require severe punishment, for their
own good and the peace of the world.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is
the best answer to this opposition. And when the case
is there, put all the books before the judge: "Now you read
and give your judgment. Don't... You are learned
lordship. Please read these books and give your
judgment. We have got already judgment from the
scholars." Present like that. "But still, because in
your court it is presented, so we pray that you give your
judgment after understanding our method of brainwash." That
will make him flat.
(S.P.Room
Conversation January 16, 1977, Calcutta)
So we can
clearly see that Puranjana dasa and Kapindra swami's
conclusion is faithlessness in the transcendental words of
Srila Prabhupada, a symptom of those of demoniac nature.
Being
envious of the scriptures and the Supreme Personality of
Godhead, he puts forward false arguments against the existence
of God and refutes the scriptural authority.
He thinks himself independent and powerful in every action. He
thinks that since no one can equal him in strength, power, or
in wealth, he can act in any way and no one can stop him.
If he has an enemy who might check the advancement of
his sensual activities, he makes plans to cut him down by his
own power.
(B.G. 16.18-19)
"What is the value of this public? All rascals."
Prabhupada: Public we don't
care. We... What is the public? We have got our own public
here. So pub... What is the public? All rascals. They are
killing cows and drinking and topless dance, bottomless
dance. What is the value of this public? All rascals. I
don't give any importance to this class of public, only
after sense gratification, that's all. They have no ideals
of life. They do not know what is God. What is the value of
this public? Mudhas, they have been described, mudhas. You
know the meaning of mudha?
Devotee (1): Ass. Prabhupada: Ass. Mudho nabhijanati mam ebhyah paramam mama.
Note: So why do
we care for the opinion of the rascal public ? We should
care for the honor of our Spiritual Father and fight to
defend him ! And those members of the public who are a
little pious they will fully support our sincere and fully
authorized work, recognising it as the fight for Absolute
Good against Absolute Evil.
"Our
process is to show Krishna Consciousness as it is, not as others want
to see it. By showing KC in this way, you are making the thing less
important. It is not that we should change to accommodate the public,
but that we should change
the
public to accommodate us."
I have seen your
advertisements as shown to me by Syamasundara., and I think you have
made the thing less important. This kind of ad is not good, it is not
grave. Our process is to show Krishna Consciousness as it is, not
as others want to see it. By showing KC in this way, you are
making the thing less important. It is not that we should change to
accommodate the public, but that we shoud change the public to
accommodate us.
(S.P. Letter
to: Yogesvara Bombay 28 December, 1971)
Note: Why should
we not present AS IT IS the sastric conclusions in Srila Prabhupada's
books and defend his honor ? Why should we change it and show it to
others as we think they want to see it and make it
less important ? We should change the public by strong preaching from
Srila Prabhupada's books to accommodate the truth not that we
accommodate their atheistic views.
This is a very
good way to induce the public for accepting our philosophy, because
they are prone to believe and accept whatever they hear on the radios
and televisions. Now go on in this way increasing more and more, and
always stick tight to the point of our philosophy. We should not
compromise in any way just to accommodate the public idea, but we can
so tastefully present the real thing that we will change the people to
accommodate us. Thank you very much for assisting Lord
Caitanya so nicely in spreading this Sankirtana Movement.
(S.P. Letter
to: Siddhesvara, Krsnakanti Calcutta 16 February, 1972)
Note: We should
always stick tight to the point of our philosophy. We should not
compromise in any way just to accommodate the public idea. If we quote
Srila Prabhupada's words, what could be a more tasteful presentation
than that, for changing the people to accommodate us ?
If one stops preaching and simply sits down in a solitary place, he is engaging in material activity. If one desires to make a compromise with the Mayavadis, he is also engaged in material activity. A devotee should never make compromises with nondevotees.
(C.C. Madhya
lila 12.135)
Note: Puranjana
dasa and Kapindra swami have made a compromise with nondevotees. Now
they are also engaged in material activity
[blaspheming Srila
Prabhupada by opposing sastra and those who present it to try to
defend his honor]
When Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, "What is your this religion? You are
eating your father and mother?" Directly. Not that He was talking
with a magistrate, He should be a little respectful. No. In
spiritual matter, everything spoken frankly, no compromise. Just
like we say, "You are not a Krsna conscious person. Then you are
a rascal. That's all." You may be the president. That doesn't
matter. But because you are not Krsna conscious, you are rascal. There
is no compromise, "Oh, here is a big man. How he is
speaking." We see everywhere. So many scientists come. I say,
"You are rascal. You are demon." (laughter) I say it. And
they tolerate. I prove that he is a rascal. I prove that he is a
rascal, he is a demon. Then he tolerates, "Yes." We have got
sufficient strength to prove, any materialistic man, to prove that he
is a rascal. That is possible. Vidhi-mahendradis ca kitayate:
"If one is practically a devotee of Lord, he doesn't care even
personalities like Vidhi." Vidhi means Lord Brahma.
Vidhi-mahendradis ca kitayate. Kitayate means such great personalities
are taken by perfect devotee as ordinary insect. As ordinary insect
has no value, similarly, anyone, however great he may be in this
material world, if he is not God conscious, he is no better than the
insect. Because it has no value. Because he does not know that he is
going to become a dog next life. He loved a dog very much, and he
bequeathed his all property to the dog, but he is going to become
himself a dog. Therefore he's a rascal. What is his intelligence? He
got some money. There are many instances in (your) country. They
bequeath the whole wealth to the dog.
(Srimad-Bhagavatam
Lecture 1.16.3 Los Angeles, December 31, 1973)
Note: Srila
Prabhupada lives in sound. If we quote his books he will prove that
those who blaspheme Krsna or the pure devotees are demoniac and should
be punished. Those who say Prabhupada's teachings are to blame for the
abuse and corruption in Iskcon or that the real Hare Krsna Movement is
a cult, will also be defeated and proved as first class demons by
Srila Prabhupada. PRABHUPADA HAS GOT SUFFICENT STRENGTH !!!
Who does not
surrender to Krsna? You'll say that "There are so many big, big
persons, and they do not surrender to Krsna. So they are all mudhas?"
Yes, they are all mudhas. That is the verdict of the sastra. We
cannot make any compromise. That is not possible, against the
principle of the sastra.
(Sri
Caitanya-caritamrta Lecture, Adi-lila 7.7 Mayapur, March 9, 1974)
Note: We
cannot make any compromise. That is not possible, against the
principle of the sastra. Those who blaspheme Srila Prabhupada are
mudhas, rascals and demons
Lord Caitanya
wanted that the message should be distributed in every village and
town of the globe. Let us do this service as far as possible in all
seriousness. We can not make any compromise with anyone for
cheap popularity.
(S.P. Letter
to: Brahmananda San Francisco 21 December, 1967)
Note: Srila
Prabhupada's glories should be completely seperated from these demons
in isgone. We can not make any compromises with anyone (turley and
co.) for cheap popularity. (tamalt's seat)
Our purpose is
to teach our own philosophy. Do not lose sight of that purpose or
become distracted by other things. I have also made one book about
other philosophies of your western philosophers, but I did not
make compromise. My purpose was to defeat them and expose their
nonsense propositions, in the light of Vedic knowledge or
Krsna consciousness philosophy. That is our purpose.
(S.P.Letter
to: VARIOUS Unknown Place Unknown Date)
Note: We don't
make any compromise. Our purpose is to defeat rascal blasphemers and
expose their nonsense propositions with Srila Prabhupada's sastra.
We are therefore requesting people that don't be misled. Here is the greatest mahajana, Krsna Himself. You follow His instruction. It is very easy, there is no complication. This is our propaganda. But we don't make any compromise. Why shall I make compromise? If we are presenting the right thing, why shall I make compromise with something wrong? (Hindi) Baliye(?). If we are confident that we are presenting the right thing, why shall I make compromise with the wrong thing? (Hindi) No, you are intelligent. You can say if I am saying something wrong. Our culture has been spoiled by interpreting wrongly Krsna's words.
(S.P.
Evening Darsana August 12, 1976, Tehran)
Note: Srila
Prabhupada is the representative of the greatest mahajana Krsna
himself. If we present his instructions we are presenting the right
thing, why shall we make compromise with something wrong ? (not
defending Srila Prabhupada's honor) We are confident Srila
Prabhupada's words are the right thing. ISKCON has being spoiled by
interpreting wrongly Prabhupada's words to suit our sense
gratification.
Prabhupada: Yes.
And if you don't care for the sastras, if you manufacture your own
way, then, as it is stated, na siddhim savapnoti. You'll never be
successful. Na sukham na param gatim. Neither happiness nor
better life will be next or the supreme goal. These things finished.
Yah sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama-karatah. If you do not
take the guidance of the sastra then all your hope is finished. You
can hope, but you'll never... This is our... Therefore we
follow the sastras and we teach others to follow sastras. If you like
you can do. Otherwise do whatever you like. But you don't manufacture
and spoil my life and others. You don't do.
Indian man: There was some trouble with your movement in America recently. Prabhupada: We don't care for this trouble. If you are sincere it is all right. We are facing so many difficulties. We don't care for it. We never compromise. All my students, they will never compromise. Why shall I compromise? If I am confident that I am speaking the truth, why shall I make compromise? Those who are not confident of his position, they will make compromise. One who does not know where he stands, he will make compromise. And if I know where I am standing, why shall I make compromise? Let others do whatever he likes. This is our position.
(Press
Interview December 31, 1976, Bombay)
Note: Puranjana
dasa and Kapindra swami don't care for the sastras, and they manufacture their
own way. If they do not take the guidance of the sastra then all their
hope is finished. All Srila Prabhupada's genuine students, never
compromise. Why shall they compromise? They know Srila Prabhupada is
speaking the truth, why shall they make compromise ? Those who
are not confident of Prabhupada's position, (Puranjana dasa and
Kapindra swami)
they will make compromise. They do not know where they stand, so they
make compromise. And genuine students know where they are standing,
why shall they make compromise ? Let others do whatever they like.
I am not
much fond of the idea of changing things to accommodate the
public--better to change the public to accommodate us.
Therefore I suggest wherever there is Sanskrit used there should also
be English spelling in brackets. In this way, the public will become
accustomed to Sanskrit language so that in future we may use only
Sanskrit and they will understand.
(S.P. Letter
to: Bali-mardana Bombay 28 December, 1971)
While preaching
our movement we should take this attitude. We cannot make
compromise with anyone. Krsna, Krsna, Caitanya... Lord
Caitanya's cult is to preach the instruction or talks about Krsna.
That's all. Yare dekha, tare kaha krsna-upadesa.
(S.P.
Morning Walk April 29, 1973, Los Angeles)
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